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Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I’ve thought I hit rock bottom a few times, turns out that as long as you’re still kicking the bottom can always fall out from under you. Like really hard. Took a global pandemic to get my life back on track due to all the money they were throwing around letting me escape the situation I’d gotten myself in.

No real advice to give other than keep on keeping on.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Could be worse, also 28 and I just got laid off after my first year of being a technical product manager. I have a somewhat scattered three years of dev experience prior, although around 2yrs was my longest stint. Been applying to jobs for about five weeks and other than a few interviews nothing has kicked back. Either no response or flat out denied, contemplating just re-learning a bunch of leetcode stuff I hate. Al…

Even if your getting a few interviews is something then nothing. How are you approaching these interviews? Your track record is not a black mark, it's just a busy market out there. You have to pitch it just right to get it. Mangle the Tech Product Manager skills with your dev stuff. Interviews are tough and practice beforehand. Ignore what your friends make because that will sour your mood.

Tbh, I kind of hated being a TPM - frankly it felt like a fake job and made me miss being technical. Unfortunately, I've just never been able to have the chops for leetcode interviews which is why I took the opp to transition to TPM and gain more leverage.

Fortunately, my friends who are better off are very supportive - in some of these interviews I can't help but think I sound desperate or maybe just annoying.

Thanks for your kind words

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#54
Reads like my last year of phd studies.

Try not to isolate voluntarily and work a bit less. Put down a strong regimen of time to work and time to relax.

Interview for jobs, for me I learned a lot for interviews when prepping, and it helped me out of the endless feeling of “there’s light at the end of the tunnel but it isn’t getting brighter”… it’s also a lot easier to say to your adviser “i have a job lined up and leaving”

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street. I don’t think, unfortunately, there’s a magic solution. I can provide some generic advice about what helped me: 1. Determining who my actual support network was. I invested in my repairing and strengthening my bonds with my friends and family who had been there for me - and while not cutting ties with fair weather friends, deemphasized spending tim…

> I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street.

If you don't mind me asking: Did you blow that money somehow? Or have you just sold the businesses for very little? Or was some other disaster involved?

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#56

Been exacly there when I was 25. Breakup after 5 years of first serious relationship, nearing the end of a phd. It sucked. I'm now 15 years past that and my life couldn't be better. This is what I did: 1. I got a new hobby involving regular workouts and which was somewhat social with new people. Never really did sports before that, but this really helped me from getting isolated from society. I found new friends and…

Absolutely this. I think self help is wonderful. But, it is very very easy to overconsume!

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#57

King, I dropped out of my PhD (probably shouldn't have, but I don't regret it because the build back is going really well, I moved back from America, was unemployed for a few months). I know this will sound wildly out of order, but do start working out. It's been crazy how much of my self esteem and idea about myself changed. Like transforming your body will legit give you confidence about other stuff. Next is try to…

Yes absolutely be careful to fearful of social media. At worst the people there could be trying to torpedo your trajectory through making you feel bad. Not worth the risk.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#58
Like some other commenters have alluded to, one problem at a time, put your other problems onto a shelf for now. Try to give yourself buffers in any and all areas of your life that you can manage. Don't beat yourself up, self-forgiveness and self-acceptance are key. One mental model I've been using for burnout/depression is that my primary goal is to maximize the derivative of energy. That is, I don't care or think about how much energy I actually have, only the rate of increase of energy over some time.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#59

Reads like my last year of phd studies. Try not to isolate voluntarily and work a bit less. Put down a strong regimen of time to work and time to relax. Interview for jobs, for me I learned a lot for interviews when prepping, and it helped me out of the endless feeling of “there’s light at the end of the tunnel but it isn’t getting brighter”… it’s also a lot easier to say to your adviser “i have a job lined up and le…

For me interviewing is incredibly stressful and anxiety inducing, OP might not have enough time/energy to get to the part of the curve in which interviewing becomes a net benefit.

I do agree with the relaxing part, treat relaxing like it's your job. If your university has a sauna or hot tub, maybe give those a shot. It has to be real relaxation though, you put your phone (email) down for the day and you are not thinking about it or feeding that itch. Move slower than the pace of research (or the pace of a corporation) and mentally checkout when the work day is over.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#60
For me it was a life-altering traumatic injury in my early 20's followed by the common pitfalls associated with such an event. What turned things around for me was taking ownership of my situation. Understanding that while it certainly sucks, whether I continued to spiral downward or crawled my way back up was entirely up to me. It was absolutely within my power to turn it around and I chose to do so. I actually remember the exact moment the decision hit me. It took several years, and more than one attempt to get back to "functional" and feeling "normal". And 20+ years later, I still live with the consequences of that injury, that's part of me but doesn't define me. I've accomplished a lot, have a good family, career and still have a lot left to contribute.

ymmv, but the tough-love mindset worked best for me:

- Nobody's coming to save you. You have to save yourself.

- People with extraordinary good or bad luck tend to make it themselves.

- Failure is an event, not a person.

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