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Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by thereisnospork »

andrewstuart wrote: post #46
darthrupert wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

An uplifting quote from: https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/raspberrypi "Raspberry Pi wasn't invented to boost shareholder value or turn its founders into billionaires: it was created as a charity to increase the number and calibre of students applying to study computer science at Cambridge, to give young people access to programmable hardware at a low price, and to equip a new generation" Whereas Raspberry Pi today: "We'…

That was 10 years ago; those then-students are now engineers. This is what success at equipping a new generation looks like - the transition of needing tools to do stuff with[0] and not just play with and learn on.

[0]"Industry"

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by smcl »

alfalfasprout wrote: post #31
smcl wrote: post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

...call their customer support? This is a pretty simple problem to explain no?

They actually have physical branches here but last few times I spoke with them they fobbed me off for a bit then claimed they have had "account downtime" and that they could not service me because they couldn't handle anyone in Czech Republic. After which they dismissed me and serviced the next person. Cool company.

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Post by sacrosancty »

polalavik wrote: post #2

> Vodafone is now looking at ways to democratise MPNs and extend their benefits to micro and small business owners whilst lowering the entry cost and reducing the resources needed to experience new digital services oh like... maybe making it open source? Or democratization as in "sell as many as possible"?

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Post by smcl »

naetius wrote: post #32
smcl wrote: post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

That seems like a great way to make a quick buck out of a libel lawsuit.

Not sure how libel law would apply, they're not like publicly saying shit about me. Just being dumb about billing.

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Post by jackvalentine »

Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #30
smcl wrote: post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

You just made me realise something. For 10 years , every month I'd received an SMS saying: > Your latest bill $-0.02 on [... blah blah...] From a telco provider I no longer use. Turns out they finally stopped messaging me in November last year. I wonder if they worked it out or whether their system gives up after 10 years. Hopefully you don't have to wait that long!

Oh I had the same problem with Vodafone Australia a few years ago. In the end I called them up about it and they sent me a physical cheque for 3 cents - the postage cost more.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by alfalfasprout »

Nextgrid wrote: post #40
alfalfasprout wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...call their customer support? This is a pretty simple problem to explain no?

Do you really think the outsourced customer support agent paid a few bucks a day is going to 1) understand your problem, 2) care about it enough to investigate it and 3) will be given the tools and access required to investigate it, 4) has a suitable escalation path to escalate what is clearly a billing system bug to the engineering department and that 5) there is actually an engineering department with competent dev…

Oh almost certainly 1-4 suck. I'm not in Vodafone's defense here. Just saying this is a solveable problem if you contact CS enough.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by bluedays »

andrewstuart wrote: post #35

This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

I remember when the pi came out. It was supposedly targeted towards third world countries that couldn't afford computer hardware. That changed very rapidly as soon as they saw how much they could profit off of hobbyists. This shift towards the corporate customer is just more of the same.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

> and an equally small, advanced silicon chipset.

That's like the old cartoon joke: "Thinking quickly, Dave [the Barbarian] constructs a homemade megaphone, using only some string, a squirrel, and a megaphone."

The RasPi is incidental to the complexity of the system. Methinks they only used that for the headline attention. Success!

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Post by bombolo »

Gigachad wrote: post #45
darthrupert wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are wildly overestimating the benefits of giving children raspberry pis.

There are so many other SBCs as well. Arguably the arduino products are more useful to kids anyway. Much easier to use, you just plug them in to the computer you are already familiar with and can start running code on them. No need to set up SSH or a second monitor/kb

But no easy wifi

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Post by [deleted] »

meindnoch wrote: post #28
hinkley wrote: post #4

If we could get an off the shelf SOC that's powerful enough to manage a PCIe daughter card, that would make me so happy. Software defined radio, offloaded eBPF, RAID controllers, are just the most obvious compute peripherals but there are a million others that could exist but don't. edit: acronym typo

Offloaded eBNF? You must be dealing with extremely large grammars if you need dedicated hardware to manage it :0

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