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Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

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Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#51

I think this is a trojan integration. MS will promptly appeal to the regulators (and possibly litigate) as soon as Apple breaks this.

You realize that MS isn’t using some type of secret hack? iOS has supported sending messages and notifications over BT forever. It’s how third party watches were able to display notifications before the Apple Watch was introduced.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#52
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely the new EU Digital Markets Act, which requires interoperabilty from messaging applications.

I'm more curious what they mean by "Trojan integration". Considering how Microsoft has been a trusted Apple app developer for over 20 years, that's a pretty heavy accusation.

And seeing that MS is using publicly available APIS that have been built into iOS since at least 2014

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#53
post #33

Ok. This does not happen very often, but: nice job MS! For once, a feature added to Windows is actually a feature that people may find useful.

To be fair implementing iMessage support is not entirely within their control, the joy of the walled garden.

Yes because all other messaging protocols allow any random third party to attach to their service. Microsoft is using an 8 year old documented iOS API.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#54
post #4

Having switched back to Android, it can be infuriating dealing with iPhone users. I get slammed with "messages" when someone reacts to a message and oftentimes, messages just don't show up or messages go to my iPad and not my phone. Apple makes this extremely confusing. The iPhone users never know of their message goes through or what they're actually sending to (my iCloud account or my phone number).

My biggest gripe is when iPhone users share video or images, they are grainy nonsense. If Apple just moved to RCS this would be solved, but they refuse simply because they know it handicaps their competitor. The react thing has largely been fixed by Google on newer versions of messenger. It's impossible to fix the video stuff. People outside the US don't get it. They say everyone should switch to Whatsapp, etc, but g…

> They say everyone should switch to Whatsapp

Anyone who advises me to switch one of my most important phone functions over to Facebook instantly loses a great deal of credibility. I can appreciate that the network effect makes it look very appealing when you're stuck inside, but if you are not already stuck in that garden, why do it? Just go back to SMS. It is the only standard that is universal.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#55

This seems similar to the limited messaging integration in some cars (e.g. Teslas). You can send and receive SMS and iMessages, but no media or group texts. The latter is a serious limitation in practice.

This is mostly a Tesla problem. Almost every other car produced today supports CarPlay and Android Auto. It is a regular source of frustration for me when I'm driving our Model 3, sending/receiving text messages using the Tesla voice interface is an exercise in frustration.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#56

I think this is a trojan integration. MS will promptly appeal to the regulators (and possibly litigate) as soon as Apple breaks this.

Why would Apple try to break it? It poses zero risk to their product line, and in fact might help a little. You still have to buy an iOS device to do iMessage.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#57
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a little odd that the US is so iMessage-heavy when the rest of the world isn't It's not odd at all. Lots of iPhones in the US because of high incomes, and high iPhone availability. Lots of non-iPhones in the rest of the world because of comparatively low incomes, and significantly less iPhone availability. I see no mystery.

iPhone still only has 55% of the market in the US. There are very, very many Android users out there.

But Apple products are premium products, with status attached. As my kid will attest to, though not directly.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#58

I think this is a trojan integration. MS will promptly appeal to the regulators (and possibly litigate) as soon as Apple breaks this.

I agreed with you until I stopped and wondered...why? If Windows Phone were still around, this would make sense. Since it's not, I don't see Microsoft's incentive to get bogged down in litigation on messaging.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#59
post #57
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPhone still only has 55% of the market in the US. There are very, very many Android users out there.

But Apple products are premium products, with status attached. As my kid will attest to, though not directly.

That’s not a US-specific phenomenon, though.

Re: Microsoft somehow brings iMessage to Windows – will it last?

#60
Interesting... A while back there was a store about running MacOS X in a VM and I believe you could sign into iCloud. I had an idea that someone could do a startup to sell iMessage as a service on other platforms by wrapping the iMessage app on a VM into an API/service. If that failed, you could buy up olf iPhones/iPads and automate them with an custom app to do the same maybe?
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