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DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by mangatmodi »

Poor maintainers also added the legal section - https://web.archive.org/web/20230204131826/https://github.co...

> No video files are stored in this repository. The repository simply contains user-submitted links to publicly available video stream URLs, which to the best of our knowledge have been intentionally made publicly by the copyright holders. If any links in these playlists infringe on your rights as a copyright holder, they may be removed by sending a pull request or opening an issue. However, note that we have no control over the destination of the link, and just removing the link from the playlist will not remove its contents from the web. Note that linking does not directly infringe copyright because no copy is made on the site providing the link, and thus this is not a valid reason to send a DMCA notice to GitHub. To remove this content from the web, you should contact the web host that's actually hosting the content (not GitHub, nor the maintainers of this repository).

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by jeroenhd »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #45
naikrovek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the law says that GitHub (in this case) must take down the repo if a DMCA claim is made. the reason doesn't matter, the identity of the claimant doesn't matter, and the repo in question doesn't matter. the owner of the repo that has been taken down can file a counterclaim (that may not be the word, I am not a lawyer) which the original DMCA-thrower must respond to within 10 days. if they do not respond in 10 days, or…

Do yout get reimbursed for 10 days of lost traffic/productivity then? There should be a safeguard, that the maker of the claim would cover damages caused by the invalid claim...

Lying in legal documents is already illegal. DMCA takedown done in bad faith can in theory be prosecuted or brought to trial but in practice nobody cares enough to spend time and effort on getting false claiments in front of a judge.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

lmm wrote: post #47
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #26

Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

Asking submitters to do that is a little rude given that moderators are in the habit of editing out added details and redirecting to original sources. Crafting a good submission is not generally appreciated.

That's not really accurate.

I'm not asking the submitter to editorialize the headline, which is what is frowned upon. In fact, the headline already is editorialized, because it says this was a DMCA takedown, but there is no evidence to support that. I'm asking to either:

1. Submit to an article source that actually has more information.

2. Submit a text submission, where it's fine to add details of what's going on, or even to ask for more information. E.g. this happens all the time for users who were cut off from some service, then they explain the situation and ask for assistance.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by djmips »

2h wrote: post #16

I would recommend avoiding making contributions on GitHub. If you want an account for search and whatnot fine, but I had an account with hundreds of stars killed. They said it was because I created a second account. I said they could delete the second account, or I would do it. They refused to accept this suggestion and are keeping both banned. What's worse is they also kill every single issue, PR and comment you've…

There must be more to this situation?

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by thayne »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #45
naikrovek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the law says that GitHub (in this case) must take down the repo if a DMCA claim is made. the reason doesn't matter, the identity of the claimant doesn't matter, and the repo in question doesn't matter. the owner of the repo that has been taken down can file a counterclaim (that may not be the word, I am not a lawyer) which the original DMCA-thrower must respond to within 10 days. if they do not respond in 10 days, or…

Do yout get reimbursed for 10 days of lost traffic/productivity then? There should be a safeguard, that the maker of the claim would cover damages caused by the invalid claim...

My understanding is no.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

#57

Post by zinekeller »

lxe wrote: post #5

This is a collection of publicly available TV streams from all over the world. What could possibly be there that violates DMCA?

Just checked a copy of repo (won't link here). A lot of cable-only channels that are definitely not offered to the public. It seems that the repository accepts any and all links, including links that definitely smells unauthorized (IP-only stream links that correspond to residential IPs in eastern Europe or south-east Asia, most legitimate free IPTV streams are hosted either in Akamai or IBM's whatever-they-call-Ustream-now).

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by altairprime »

lmm wrote: post #47
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #26

Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

Asking submitters to do that is a little rude given that moderators are in the habit of editing out added details and redirecting to original sources. Crafting a good submission is not generally appreciated.

Claiming conspiracy is no excuse not to write the “here’s why I posted this” paragraph recommended by the guidelines, mods, and other readers.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by matheusmoreira »

mangatmodi wrote: post #46

How come a compilation of pubic streams is eligible for DMCA? Lets wait to get the DMCA notice to be available, it could be either of following 1. Somebody mistakenly/intentionally added a malicious stream. 2. Or DMCA notice is fraud. In my experience, it always the 2nd one. There are law firms and agencies randomly taking down stuff on internet with their faulty scripts and crawlers.

People will DMCA anything. If some copyright monopolist gets offended by something on the internet it will get DMCA'd out of existence. Whether it's actually fair, just or even legal has no bearing whatsoever. They face no punishment for infringing other people's rights with frivolous claims because you'd have to prove they deliberately acted in bad faith and even that would require people to hire expensive lawyers to do it. In other words, they can leverage the justice system to arbitrarily silence others and then hide behind incompetentence and indiscrimination as an excuse.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by boomboomsubban »

adobrawy wrote: post #35
boomboomsubban wrote: post #8

Github posts their DMCA claims, and I'm not seeing one for iptv https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=iptv&type=

The DMCA repository was last updated 2 days ago, and this link likely appeared on HackerNews only a few hours after the IPTV repository was unpublished. Therefore, it appears that they simply have not yet published the DMCA notice.

From other posts, the repository has been down for at least some of the past week. Long enough you'd expect any notice to be posted.
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