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anyone that thinks humans will be around in even a million years time is, imho, delusional. we were not there up until now in that timespan, and won't be after it. and don't get started on living on mars, or elsewhere - not going to happen.
It is pretty delusional to claim knowledge of what is going to happen to us in this time frame be it one way or the other
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As long as we have dependents who have evolved and survived that is to be expected.
Right. Archaic humans that existed 1 million years ago are still recognizable very much as humans and had many of our current capabilities in nascent form.
i don't think the primate tree is going to be terminated that soon, but i think it might be pruned.
anyone that thinks humans will be around in even a million years time is, imho, delusional. we were not there up until now in that timespan, and won't be after it. and don't get started on living on mars, or elsewhere - not going to happen.
>"anyone that thinks humans will be around in even a million years time is, imho, delusional. " It is pretty delusional to claim knowledge of what is going to happen to us in this time frame be it one way or the other
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This but unironically. Spare me your left-wing progressive snark. Humans thrive despite our propensity for self-harm. Something to celebrate, not criticize.
Conservation and awareness of our natural resources is not a "left-wing progressive" thing. Exhibit A: Ducks Unlimited. A lot of very right-wing hunters contribute millions of dollars every year to preserve natural habitats. They see and understand the impact humans have on the natural environment, and pay good money to preserve those habitats.
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Right. Archaic humans that existed 1 million years ago are still recognizable very much as humans and had many of our current capabilities in nascent form.
in nascent form - so, not developed. if there is one thing that defines modern humans, it is their use of technology, which has only really happened in the last 5K years, and mostly in the last few hundred. compare this with a million years. i don't think the primate tree is going to be terminated that soon, but i think it might be pruned.
And I think our version of seafaring, spacefaring, will be fruitful over a timescale of thousands of years, and maybe much shorter than that.
Our ancestors walked from Africa to the corners of the globe. Today, the cheapest and safest way to travel thousands of miles (as well as the most common) is to hurtle across the sky at nearly the speed of sound at altitudes that would kill you if not in a pressurized volume. The energy used for this, a round trip from one side of the globe to the other, is about the same as needed to place you in orbit (with hyper-optimized chemical rockets). I don’t see why we think the last ~50 years is the end of such progress of our technology.
People are so skeptic and negative about humans nowadays. We are an incredibly hardy species. We are clever. We find ways to survive in deserts, mountains, small islands, icey tundras and anything in between. We plan ahead, we can eat and digest pretty much anything (except for cellulose) and we have as much drive to survive as your average cockroach. Sure our species is vulnerable. And I wouldn't rule out large perc…
> We are an incredibly hardy species. We are clever. We find ways to survive in deserts, mountains, small islands, icey tundras and anything in between. We’re that… so far. But at the same time: - our track record is short, only about 300kY, for comparison while not a specific species the dinosaurs lasted for around 175000kY, and were the dominant life form for 135000, until they were taken out by an asteroid, apex s…
I think that's a pretty bad comparison. A much better comparison is with a species that's also a mammal, spread world-wide, extremely adaptable and exhibits group behavior.
The Canidae genus fits the bill nicely, which includes foxes, jackals, and of course, wolves and dogs.
They have a pretty good track record of ~9000kY of being virtually unchanged from their current forms and inhabit all parts of the world, including some fairly remote islands.
> we’re actively moving our own environment out of spec with our survival capabilities,
Technically that can be said for any species that breeds beyond carrying capacity of its local environment. Humans are no different.
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in nascent form - so, not developed. if there is one thing that defines modern humans, it is their use of technology, which has only really happened in the last 5K years, and mostly in the last few hundred. compare this with a million years. i don't think the primate tree is going to be terminated that soon, but i think it might be pruned.
I would consider fire, seafaring, language, and clothes to absolutely be “technology” and they existed well before 5000 years ago. And I think our version of seafaring, spacefaring, will be fruitful over a timescale of thousands of years, and maybe much shorter than that. Our ancestors walked from Africa to the corners of the globe. Today, the cheapest and safest way to travel thousands of miles (as well as the most…
People are so skeptic and negative about humans nowadays. We are an incredibly hardy species. We are clever. We find ways to survive in deserts, mountains, small islands, icey tundras and anything in between. We plan ahead, we can eat and digest pretty much anything (except for cellulose) and we have as much drive to survive as your average cockroach. Sure our species is vulnerable. And I wouldn't rule out large perc…
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Are we spending on climate change? I see a lot of greenwashing, but it's more marketing than spending. This said, I think you kind of miss a few points regarding climate change. First, it hasn't happened yet, it's just starting. We are living a mass extinction right now, and that's not a computer model or some prediction; that's a fact: we can count how many trees, mammals and insects have already disappeared (someth…
> That's not the climate change problem, it's the biodiversity problem. I agree with you. The state of our oceans is a much more current and verifiable problem than the actual EFFECTS climate change will have in the future. I’m not denying it exists. But there’s a lot of conflating the mass extinction with climate change, but they’re not the same thing. And climate change gets all the money right now. Because it’s fa…
The fate of humans is extinction, saying otherwise is simply wrong. Be it 200 years or 2,000,000,000 at some point our species will go extinct, or whatever species we evolve into. I understand why people get angry when you say it, but anger won’t change it because on a long enough time scale nothing will survive.
That's the same thing about the current mass extinction/biodiversity problem/climate change: we are not talking about saving the species in 200 years, we've long proven that we don't care about that. We are talking about saving our butts. Us, currently living.