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World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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My dad's factory went to 4 day work weeks in the 90s and never looked back. Everyone was happier, and the various suppliers and customers learned pretty quickly not to call on Friday because it was rare that anyone was there.

And now I rarely schedule work for Friday's If something important comes up I have an extra day to deal with it, otherwise I get my 3 day weekends and family life is good.

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Instead of 3 day weekends, why don't we go to a 6 day week? The only reason we have 7 days is because of the 7 classical planets.

It’s probably easier to effect change within a small region using the existing days than persuade the entire world to change their calendar simultaneously.

Take a look at this https://calendars.fandom.com/wiki/6-Day_Week_Solar_Calendar_...

Would be one of the biggest innovations in time keeping we could unleash on the world.

And to the person who downvoted my post: get over yourself mate.

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Thought-work is work. Logistical planning is work. Having conversations where everyone makes sure that the others are on the same page, is work.

Whether or not something is 'work' has no bearing on whether or not it's bullshit. I am in perfect agreement that one hour of useful work requires many hours of equally useful thought-work.

You have the advantage of calling something bullshit after the fact.

Track your BS Meyer before the initiatives take place. Before you can see the outcomes whether something was impactful or not.

Feel free to unleash your predictive capacity on the world.

Re: World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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When was a mathematician, I worked as hard as I could until I was mentally exhausted. I actually calculated how much I worked per week over a period of two years. On actual "hard thinking", like working through logic, I spent about 7 hours. There was another 7 hours writing and clarifying topics, and another 6 hours or so on classes, seminars (sort of like meetings, but productive). That gives a total of 20 hours per…

There's also that we once had a society where one person in a household worked 8 hours a day and one did house chores (including raising kids) for 8 hours a day.

In a modern, fair society, that should translate into both people working 4 hours a day and house chores 4 hours a day.

Unfortunately the reality right now is we're pushing both people to each work 12 hours a day AND do 4 hours of chores on top of that.

Re: World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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Something I've never understood is why four days? Is it simply because it's an incremental improvement over the current five day week, a stopping point toward the next target, or is it the target?

I've wondered that as well. People say 5 days is too much, well why 4? Why not 3?

Potentially there isn't a real reason, but that it's just an easier bite to chew for now, where people have noticeable improvements.

Re: World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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When was a mathematician, I worked as hard as I could until I was mentally exhausted. I actually calculated how much I worked per week over a period of two years. On actual "hard thinking", like working through logic, I spent about 7 hours. There was another 7 hours writing and clarifying topics, and another 6 hours or so on classes, seminars (sort of like meetings, but productive). That gives a total of 20 hours per…

I'm a PM and I work from home - far and away the biggest advantage IMHO isn't the lack of commute (though that's great), but rather the flexibility in schedule.

My most productive hours are 6-9am - I can crank through what would take me most of 9am-5pm in that time period. That's wasted when I have to get ready and commute during that time period. When optimizing for most efficient working times, 40 hours a week is really 20-30 depending on meetings.

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Something I've never understood is why four days? Is it simply because it's an incremental improvement over the current five day week, a stopping point toward the next target, or is it the target?

For me it was a great balance: instead of the weekend feeling like days off from work, general life felt like alternating between holidays and work, since they're about the same length.

3 work days might work as well, but fewer than that and you start to lose the flow at work. And given that I do generally enjoy my work, it isn't necessary for that holiday feel anyway.

Re: World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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When was a mathematician, I worked as hard as I could until I was mentally exhausted. I actually calculated how much I worked per week over a period of two years. On actual "hard thinking", like working through logic, I spent about 7 hours. There was another 7 hours writing and clarifying topics, and another 6 hours or so on classes, seminars (sort of like meetings, but productive). That gives a total of 20 hours per…

As a software developer, I can 100% support your findings.

Even counting deep concentration periods (flow, whatever you want to call it) this holds true.

Re: World’s largest four-day work week trial finds few are going back

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When was a mathematician, I worked as hard as I could until I was mentally exhausted. I actually calculated how much I worked per week over a period of two years. On actual "hard thinking", like working through logic, I spent about 7 hours. There was another 7 hours writing and clarifying topics, and another 6 hours or so on classes, seminars (sort of like meetings, but productive). That gives a total of 20 hours per…

I'm a PM and I work from home - far and away the biggest advantage IMHO isn't the lack of commute (though that's great), but rather the flexibility in schedule. My most productive hours are 6-9am - I can crank through what would take me most of 9am-5pm in that time period. That's wasted when I have to get ready and commute during that time period. When optimizing for most efficient working times, 40 hours a week is r…

My most productive time is similar to yours, from about 7 to 11am.
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