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An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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To be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to…

> Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone

Controls and restrictions are good for people and thus society. We see benefits on limiting food intake, drugs, certain perversion (child, incest etc) and the inverse being no limits etc. associated with obesity, disease and mental health issues. IMO we shouldn't even coin the term "without hurting anyone" because of it's simplistic view of the world and society. AI porn will just feed peoples fetishes to no end and most likely compound the porn crisis further, which is already a public health issue.

This is the same argument used for a lot of things including drug addiction. It's a very easy phrase to throw without thinking of the wider consequences. People do not live in a bubble, we're social animals and another persons ills can have a detrimental effect on society.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#53

,,putting women in the porn industry out of a job'' Sounds like a great thing. The industry is getting 18 year old women who don't have experience in managing money to sell their body for a few thousand dollars to be shown forever, then their porn value drops dramatically fast.

Sounds like you have direct experience here.

There was a Netflix documentary about it

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#54

To be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to…

How do you get your training data if no-one has been objectified in the supply pipeline?

It depends on how you define ethical / exploitation.

There is a ginormous set of data available to nearly everyone for free. (one way or another) that would provide enormous training input.

If instead you focus on the fact that people were objektives during the making of the porn in the first place then the equatino changes.

In one case it would stop future objectification.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#55
moderation was never as important as it will be in the new "AI age" of generated content

There should be a mechanism to make sure people dont dive into a rabbit hole and get stuck on whatever type of generated content they want to consume (whether that is porn, conspiration theories, or opinionated content)

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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I'm gonna ask something awful, but isn't this the end of child porn? It's sad but isn't it the least painful option? I wish it would then lead the people that need mental health to a professional, hell, couldn't we engineer an ai that progressively guides their misguided patterns to an acceptable level? (assuming such a thing exists)

It’s not awful because it has been addressed before. Sure, if you can create child porn at your demand there’s no reason to go look for the real thing, at least in theory. There are a couple of problems though. How would the model be trained? It has to process child faces. This is a huge red flag by itself. The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn. If it becomes so easy to access who…

> If it becomes so easy to access who can tell how many more will find it attractive.

The same argument is regularly brought up around drugs. Modifying chemical formulas brings out stuff like 1P-LSD, which is a functional analogue of LSD, but has been legal in lots of countries for years because it wasn't covered by the existing laws. With that argument, you'd expect everyone and their aunt to be tripping, but we didn't. There's a subculture that is interested in psychotropic drugs, but it's small, and availability doesn't increase it.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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I'm gonna ask something awful, but isn't this the end of child porn? It's sad but isn't it the least painful option? I wish it would then lead the people that need mental health to a professional, hell, couldn't we engineer an ai that progressively guides their misguided patterns to an acceptable level? (assuming such a thing exists)

No. Creating child porn, be it drawings, written, or AI is illegal. (even though no real person was involved at any stage).

Buying a sex doll with proportions that are closer to a child than an adult is also illegal.

Given that some sex dolls are partial. (not the entire legs for example) the difference can get murky

My references here are to Norwgian law.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not awful because it has been addressed before. Sure, if you can create child porn at your demand there’s no reason to go look for the real thing, at least in theory. There are a couple of problems though. How would the model be trained? It has to process child faces. This is a huge red flag by itself. The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn. If it becomes so easy to access who…

> The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn Would you similarly argue gay porn is likely to make more people gay?

I think many people would agree to that sentiment. Anecdotally, the number of people who identify as gay or bisexual and/or are interested in same-sex sex has only increased tremendously as the amount of gay pornography has increased.

Arguably much of it only due to destigmatisation and legislation. But even then it only seems obvious that many people who would otherwise have lived "straight lives" have been "introduced" to homosexuality due to gay porn, as the number of "this makes me question my sexuality" comments under various gay-erotic content show.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#60

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Soooo... you seem to be aware that this is an unhealthy habit, and that AI-generated porn will make it worse. I could write something generic here about AI or porn vs. mental health but instead I'm going to probably sound judgmental. I'm not; you do you; your brains are made to be stimulated any way you want to stimulate them. But you said some things seemingly in distress that are big red flags. Stop reading now if hearing a raw opinion about your comment will bother you.

Several things you mentioned are going to be terrible for your ability to form future relationships or partake in society. You probably already realize all of these but they aren't what other people will openly point out to you, so maybe hearing it from another human will be good.

1./ Looking to see your fetishes performed by 10/10 models. I have no idea your gender or orientation, or what you consider 10/10, it could be anything. But you know that no one is perfect to anyone else IRL when you spend a few minutes with them. They're human. They fart. If you like farts, they burp. If you like burps, they don't burp. Fantasy is fine but numbing yourself to the point where you only get off on fantasy is a never-ending cycle. The last fantasy 10/10 only gets you off until the next one.

2./ On a more basic level, pulling your trigger (clit, dick, both, whatever) is one of lots of things you can be doing. If you want to spend money on making it nice, that's cool; but it's essentially an infantile experience. Look, if you said the same exact thing about buying a Ferrari and driving it real fast, I'd say the exact same thing about this being infantile. You can let peak experiences take over your brain for an hour or two, or a week, or a month, but this must be ephemeral - temporary - or else they aren't peak experiences anymore.

1 + 2 / Rewiring your brain to constantly seek peak 10/10 experiences is the definition of a drug-seeking addiction. You're recognizing that it's going to interfere with your basic wiring and you haven't even gone full-throttle on it. It's not what will come next in AI that will ruin you... it's you looking for it.

Everything you said here could have been said by someone addicted to child porn or heroin. I'm not equating your harmless use of AI gratification with the negative social implications of those things; I'm just saying that you're already preemptively blaming the fact that it's there because you know that it's fuckin bad for you.

I always said I'd smoke crack and do heroin on my deathbed, but not til then, because I'd like it too much. Fake porn of 10/10s doing your fetishes is just crack. Get a real 4/10 person to do them with you and you'll be a much happier, fuller person with a life and not just a bunch of overstimulated neurons.

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