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Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by graphe »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #24
blindriver wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've ordered medication from them because they test to make sure that there's no impurities. It's not that much more expensive and I would gladly pay to know there's no extra chemicals in there that could give me cancer.

Wow, I love that they do this. A few online nootropics suppliers do the same for the supplements they provide but I guess "legit" pharmacies just trust whatever they get from their suppliers usually.

Are you sure they actually test them instead of getting a test from china that says it's good?

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by refurb »

Supermancho wrote: post #43
refurb wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize GSK is a UK pharma company... right?

They do business in the US right? There is an expansive extradition treaty right?

This is a worldwide issue. The US may not prosecute, but will Europe?

I wouldn't hold my breath that any other country will prosecute either.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by Enginerrrd »

graphe wrote: post #51
radicaldreamer wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I love that they do this. A few online nootropics suppliers do the same for the supplements they provide but I guess "legit" pharmacies just trust whatever they get from their suppliers usually.

Are you sure they actually test them instead of getting a test from china that says it's good?

Yeah, at least ~5 years ago, even the main one everyone raved about had some pretty shady practices when they alleged to have "tested every batch in house".

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by Scoundreller »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #37
zerocrates wrote: post #27

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My understanding is that the carcinogen (NDMA) builds up over time even with storage at recommended temperatures, though increased temperature makes it build up much faster. That's what the FDA said when they pulled it from the market. How old your ranitidine would have to be to have too-high NDMA level without higher heat, I haven't seen any specifics around that. I imagine they could have instead instituted limits…

Even something as simple as telling people to store the bottle in the refrigerator...

if you have to sell your OTC medication in a refrigerator, your sales will drop a lot. It's not somewhere people think to look, and the impression is that it's perishable. Which people can appreciate for something like a steak, but not their "safe and usual" medications.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by sbaiddn »

LazyMans wrote: post #45

I was telling a friend how unfortunate it is that I live in the south and kept a bottle of this in my car for over a year. I have pretty bad heartburn issues and used to take it only on occasion. Maybe I'll get $35 from a settlement to go with my cancer one day.

Just as a heads up from a professional semi-chemist: dont ingest anything thats been at car temperatures.

Its hot enough to chemically alter things, activate diffusions, speed bacterial growth, etc.

Its not hot enough to sterilize what you're ingesting.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by BuckyBeaver »

eikenberry wrote: post #19
bsuvc wrote: post #14

It's not just that it causes cancer, but it's that improper storage (heat exposure) increases the risk of it causing cancer, and when informed of that, GSK decided it was not worth doing anything about it. > GSK's leadership was warned on several occasions about the storage issue, but it opted against making any changes to existing plans. In a way, this makes it worse, because they could have taken action to limit th…

I read that it is only carcinogenic if stored improperly, which was one of the reasons it stayed available for as long as it did. The article doesn't seem to counter this idea. Do you have any references on the not heat-exposed risks?

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Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by intelVISA »

billiallards wrote: post #35
h2odragon wrote: post #2

Of course they did. People wouldn't buy their shit if they'd said it'd give you cancer. Oh wait. Maybe they would. everything gives you cancer now, doesn't it?

As I understand it, the wrong combination of tumor suppressant/promoter genes getting switched off/on gives you cancer. Exposure to some things can cause more mutations or hinder your body's error-correction systems, sometimes to extreme degrees. It is a numbers game, though.

CRISPR needs to hurry up and roll out ECC for genes...

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by Analemma_ »

marcinzm wrote: post #11
hammock wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What risks have all those studies found in COVID vaccines?

The big ones where Johnson & Johnson/Janssen had a risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome to the point of being effectivelly discontinued. Pfizer and Moderna also have a risk of myocarditis. There's also plenty of other studies covering the various other risks such as https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ . Which can all be found after 30 seconds of Googling or simply by paying attention to all the new…

The thrombosis was reported by the exact medical authorities that antivaxxers claim are hushing up the truth, using the exact diagnostic and reporting system they claim doesn’t work. The system worked exactly as intended.

The myocarditis is caused by the same spike proteins that are in the virus itself, and the relative risk of myocarditis from an actual Covid infection versus the vaccine is many times higher.

Which can all be found after 30 seconds of Googling or simply by paying attention to all the news these got over the last few years.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by wewtyflakes »

marcinzm wrote: post #11
hammock wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What risks have all those studies found in COVID vaccines?

The big ones where Johnson & Johnson/Janssen had a risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome to the point of being effectivelly discontinued. Pfizer and Moderna also have a risk of myocarditis. There's also plenty of other studies covering the various other risks such as https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ . Which can all be found after 30 seconds of Googling or simply by paying attention to all the new…

Okay, and what about the risks associated with getting covid? I'll take the vaccine.

Re: Zantac’s maker kept quiet about cancer risks for 40 years

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Post by LazyMans »

sbaiddn wrote: post #55
LazyMans wrote: post #45

I was telling a friend how unfortunate it is that I live in the south and kept a bottle of this in my car for over a year. I have pretty bad heartburn issues and used to take it only on occasion. Maybe I'll get $35 from a settlement to go with my cancer one day.

Just as a heads up from a professional semi-chemist: dont ingest anything thats been at car temperatures. Its hot enough to chemically alter things, activate diffusions, speed bacterial growth, etc. Its not hot enough to sterilize what you're ingesting.

Good advice for sure. I suppose I should make sure the tums in my center console won’t kill me
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