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New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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A hearing for a bill will take place in New Hampshire on February 16th, 2023, for a bill that, if passed, will require state agencies to accommodate libre software users in public-facing applications, so that people do not have to use proprietary software to access state services on the internet. Your help is needed. More information is available in the linked article.

>Your help is needed. With all due respect, speaking as someone not in New Hampshire, your (and the article's) request to me and others like myself is a subversion of democracy. This New Hampshire state bill is being deliberated in the New Hampshire state legislature, to be eventually voted on by New Hampshire state legislators voted in by and representing the people of the state of New Hampshire. As a strictly state…

Sometimes democracy gets things wrong. States have historically liked to do fucked up shit and then hide behind "states' rights".

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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post #45

A hearing for a bill will take place in New Hampshire on February 16th, 2023, for a bill that, if passed, will require state agencies to accommodate libre software users in public-facing applications, so that people do not have to use proprietary software to access state services on the internet. Your help is needed. More information is available in the linked article.

>Your help is needed. With all due respect, speaking as someone not in New Hampshire, your (and the article's) request to me and others like myself is a subversion of democracy. This New Hampshire state bill is being deliberated in the New Hampshire state legislature, to be eventually voted on by New Hampshire state legislators voted in by and representing the people of the state of New Hampshire. As a strictly state…

The people of New Hampshire and the United States have voted to protect free speech including by people who live outside of the state and the union.

Corporations from other states and countries who don't like this bill make use of that. Proponents can too.

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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>Your help is needed. With all due respect, speaking as someone not in New Hampshire, your (and the article's) request to me and others like myself is a subversion of democracy. This New Hampshire state bill is being deliberated in the New Hampshire state legislature, to be eventually voted on by New Hampshire state legislators voted in by and representing the people of the state of New Hampshire. As a strictly state…

Sometimes democracy gets things wrong. States have historically liked to do fucked up shit and then hide behind "states' rights".

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Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Your help is needed. With all due respect, speaking as someone not in New Hampshire, your (and the article's) request to me and others like myself is a subversion of democracy. This New Hampshire state bill is being deliberated in the New Hampshire state legislature, to be eventually voted on by New Hampshire state legislators voted in by and representing the people of the state of New Hampshire. As a strictly state…

The people of New Hampshire and the United States have voted to protect free speech including by people who live outside of the state and the union. Corporations from other states and countries who don't like this bill make use of that. Proponents can too.

Your right to free speech ends where their right to free and fair elections begins.

There is nothing fair about a state vote corrupted by voices outside of the state, let alone outside of the country.

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people of New Hampshire and the United States have voted to protect free speech including by people who live outside of the state and the union. Corporations from other states and countries who don't like this bill make use of that. Proponents can too.

Your right to free speech ends where their right to free and fair elections begins. There is nothing fair about a state vote corrupted by voices outside of the state, let alone outside of the country.

A voice isn't corruption is it? If I talk to my uncle in NH about this bill am I subverting democracy or engaging in it?

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people of New Hampshire and the United States have voted to protect free speech including by people who live outside of the state and the union. Corporations from other states and countries who don't like this bill make use of that. Proponents can too.

Your right to free speech ends where their right to free and fair elections begins. There is nothing fair about a state vote corrupted by voices outside of the state, let alone outside of the country.

Are you aware of how common this type of behavior is? Where are you purposing to draw the line? Should we not even discuss local and state elections on the internet to prevent outside voices from swaying the views of voters? Should we not report on these elections?

A free and fair election is about ensuring that eligible voters are informed, that they have access to the ballot box, and that those ballots are accurately counted.

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people of New Hampshire and the United States have voted to protect free speech including by people who live outside of the state and the union. Corporations from other states and countries who don't like this bill make use of that. Proponents can too.

Your right to free speech ends where their right to free and fair elections begins. There is nothing fair about a state vote corrupted by voices outside of the state, let alone outside of the country.

"Speech is corruption" is a bad take.

Re: New Hampshire on the cusp of enshrining software freedom into law

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There are so many people out there who are now technology practitioners because they had a chance to self-train on the same tools that professionals use, which are freely available at no cost since paid software is vastly more expensive than they could ever hope to afford. Programmers aren't stupid, we are fortunate that we can make our living using the software we build rather than being forced to sell it. Open-sour…

Actually, most of these companies provide their commercial tools either free or deeply discounted to students so they can learn.

It's a great way to get people trapped in your ecosystem so they pay you once they aren't a student anymore
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