No fruit juice then.
I would probably avoid fruit juice anyway for sugar reasons
WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
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Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
#52Time to start treating it as any other drug then. Bring back the prohibition, throw the users, producers, sellers and so on to jail. It is least we can do to protect the young from it.
Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
#53Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.
the story is that cigarettes are well researched and documented to cause agressive lung cancers, heart disease and many other problems. the story on alcohol is much less clear and even if true, much lower risk
"the story on alcohol is much less clear and if it even true, much lower risk"
What? Afaik alcohol is pretty well known to increase risks of several cancers in population. Individual response to alcohol is of course a much more complex topic with genetics affecting a large palette of physiological and neurological responses to alcohol. For populations - alcohol is a health risk. For individual - the narrative is far more nuanced (more risk for some than others etc).
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#54Saving you a click: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...
And this is the Lancet article summarising the research: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2... The proportion of cancers attributable to alcohol is 4.1% of all cases, from [1]. Of that, the ‘Light to Moderate’ alcohol category ( 1. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2...
2 bottles of wine per week is already quite a bit. If you are a couple, you pop a bottle more than every second day.
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#55> To identify a “safe” level of alcohol consumption, valid scientific evidence would need to demonstrate that at and below a certain level, there is no risk of illness or injury associated with alcohol consumption. The new WHO statement clarifies: currently available evidence cannot indicate the existence of a threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol “switch on” and start to manifest in the human body.…
you don't need the cinnamon, just the toast [studies say]
Link? I thought cinnamon was good for blood pressure?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
UV too. So basically direct exposure to Sun light should be avoided. edit: UV do cause DNA damage, so following the same logic, no amount of Sun light can be considered safe. Which is true, but the effects are usually negligible, so, as usual, common sense is your best friend.
Ask any dermatologist and they'll absolutely tell you to protect yourself from the sun.
Solar radiation is group 1 carcinogen
Literally the light from the Sun is in the same group of tobacco and asbestos
So unless you live in a cave, you're exposed to it constantly.
Paracelsus knew it already a long time ago: dosis sola facit venenum (only the dose makes the poison)
Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
#57Reading through the comments here there seems to be much negative sentiment against this study. But what they are right? What if alcohol is actually just bad for you full stop. Would this really be that shocking or controversial that a known poison is poisonous?
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#58All cause mortality is lower among light drinkers than non-drinkers.
Small doses of harms are typically beneficial. Not all harm is bad, and safety is not always desirable.
Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
#59Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.
I think the fact that smoking forces others around you to smoke, whereas drinking doesn't is a big part of it. Along with the fact that drinking occasionally is far more common than smoking occasionally. Nicotine is far more adictive.
> I think the fact that smoking forces others around you to smoke, whereas drinking doesn't is a big part of it.
I'd be curious if cooking with wine falls into this category of affecting others. For example, at a restaurant if a meal has a little bit of wine in its sauce will that be listed on the menu or would it be added behind the scenes sort of like you wouldn't expect to see "garlic powder" or "pepper" listed on the menu for what's on a steak.
Re: WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
#60Well according to the American Cancer Society, alcoholic beverages are a Group 1 Carcinogen. Right up there with Asbestos, UV radiation, Tobacco smoke, and Diesel exhaust. https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cancer-causes/general-info/kn... There probably a story somewhere as to why cigarettes get big labels and beer cans don't.
in the same group you'll find solar radiation (yes, literally the Sun light), UVs (A,B and C), X-ray and many other substances and/or radiations we are exposed to on a daily basis. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IARC_group_1_Carcinogens
I've known people who died from skin cancer and who died from late term alcoholism with pancreatic cancer. I guess dosage matters, even though the effect would be daily available.