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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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> However, single-core performance is generally considered more important when it comes to overall speed for everyday usage, as most tasks are unable to scale efficiently across multiple cores.

Thank you for acknowledging this. I think few people actually appreciate the need for better single-core performance. It's, in comparison, easy to just add more cores and use more power, but what is hard is making one core faster and faster and use less power.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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It's a single core benchmark, so not surprising. The single core performance has always been a lot better on the iPhones, and you can't fix this in software. You can produce a multi-core benchmark that makes an Android look just as good as an iPhone, and some apps will be just as snappy. But when using the web browser the difference in performance was noticeable for me so I upgraded to a used iPhone.

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post #47

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All phone battery longevities are probably within a factor of 2x (for reputable brands). An iPhone official battery replacement is $100 installed. Is longevity really that material for a component that is 1/8 the price of the phone?

Apple wouldn't replace my ipad battery and is bullshitting me saying it is at 100% health. The device is 4 years old and I can tell it's only lasting half to 2/3 of the original battery life (even with only safari open). I'd be happy to pay $100.

what does the battery health on the settings app say?

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. I wish this was true for my old Android phone. I still have a OnePlus5 lying in my drawer, which still has stellar performance, but doesn't get any new software features.

If you can unlock the bootloader, it looks like LineageOS is still serving up fresh builds for it: [bad link, i removed it]

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

Exactly. I use a 2nd gen iPhone SE, and a big reason I bought it was that it had the then-beefy A13 chip despite being a “budget model”.

It’s now nearly 3 years old and still feels like a brand new phone.

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#57

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

Considering that 80% of App Store revenue came from games according to information that came out in the Epic Trial, there are a lot of people that play games.

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Well, both are based on ARM designs anyway. I think some future Snapdragon will even get manufactured by TSMC.

The Snapdragon in the S23 Ultra is already manufactured on TSMC 4 nm.

Ah ok, that could well be, thx!

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I still rock an iPhone 12 Pro Max and love it.

Saying that you "still rock" something barely 3 years old sounds.... strange.

I still rock my 1983 Toyota, sure. I still rock my 20yo HiFi system.

But I don't "still rock" my iPhone 11, it was only recently out of production for God's sake!

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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iphone 12 mini has been my favorite phone I've ever owned, and coincidentally the first iphone I've ever owned.

It starts with one gadget. Then you buy the second Apple device, and find that they work fantastically together. Soon, you're in an all-Apple household!

Yeah, started with an Apple TV hooked up to my Sony TV (didn't want Sony / Android connecting to internet). Then got an Apple Watch because of running + vibrating alarm. Had to get the iPhone for the watch, so rented the iPhone 12 Mini on a Black Friday Deal from Grover. Then followed by iPad Air.

Though my Desktop is still a Tower with a 12 Core / 24 Thread 3900X. And the next laptop would probably be a frame.work.

Though for a family computer the low spec Mac Mini looks nifty.

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