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Would it be potentially viable to make moderators more like filterers (e.g. like filter lists in Ublock Origin)? You could "subscribe" to a moderator if you like the way they filter content, and if you "unsubscribed" from all moderators you'd get as much of an "unfiltered" view as possible. Bad moderators, over time, would get less and less subscriptions to their filtering of content, and would have to adapt, or be f…
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No, I don't think that's how HN works at all. Dan can in fact run amok on HN. I don't believe there are significant pressures from YC on how Dan structures moderation here. People unfamiliar with the setup here tend to think about YC first when they think about its management, but they should think about Dan first. My understanding is that things are pretty hands-off; even the perks that YC companies get here are, I…
>Dan can in fact run amok on HN. I don't believe there are significant pressures from YC on how Dan structures moderation here. I'm sorry but this is absurd. If dang had a mental break and decided only cat picture posts were allowed going forward, there would definitely be a conversation. It being hands-off so far means that YC and dang have current consensus and trust exists.
I find Reddit mods are particularly power crazy. Most of them seem to be doing it for power rather than for love of the content of their sub. There is so much personal bias and posts removed for personal reasons, or just to flex. I’m not speculating on the reason, but it’s definitely like that.
Genuine question!
Would it be potentially viable to make moderators more like filterers (e.g. like filter lists in Ublock Origin)? You could "subscribe" to a moderator if you like the way they filter content, and if you "unsubscribed" from all moderators you'd get as much of an "unfiltered" view as possible. Bad moderators, over time, would get less and less subscriptions to their filtering of content, and would have to adapt, or be f…
I think it's very questionable if giving moderators the power to soft-censor is a good idea, because it will cause moderators to censor posts they probably wouldn't have censored before, and moderator influence is inherently less democratic than user influence. Reddit Enhancement Suite has long implemented various filtering mechanisms for users though so users DO have some capability to censor things themselves if they have the know-how, but it's not like these mechanisms are built into say the official reddit app which is the main way reddit is overwhelmingly used.
I think the author doesn't understand that reddit mods don't work for reddit. In their discussion with the mods they mention "site-wide rules" which makes me think they don't understand that the mods of each reddit make their own rules. On that sub, their rules don't allow people who mostly post links to their own site. It's up to you if agree with their rule, but those are the rules they have chosen. The common resp…
Don't be so sure that some of the mods don't work for Reddit. Some of them are powermods modding multiple large subs in the millions of subscribers, and they seem to be able to get their way instantly with anything they want. Pretty lucky of Reddit to have people who can mod multiple huge subs for years for "free". Not only that, but Reddit wants to do a public IPO to raise more money. So let's see how that's going t…
Get a blog.
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>Dan can in fact run amok on HN. I don't believe there are significant pressures from YC on how Dan structures moderation here. I'm sorry but this is absurd. If dang had a mental break and decided only cat picture posts were allowed going forward, there would definitely be a conversation. It being hands-off so far means that YC and dang have current consensus and trust exists.
The trust between YC and Dan regarding HN is probably the whole story about moderation here. Again: people think YC exerts a bunch of influence in how HN is moderated, and I doubt it exerts much influence at all. Dan is running this place the way he'd run it if YC didn't exist.
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I don't think it would work - Most people never touch which ublock filter they use, so moderators probably wouldn't care too much about maintaining a decent behavior - People would have no idea what mod to pick and just pick the first few top ones, resulting in even more centralization, these people would have insane monetization options - You also have the problem that if a top mod "retires", the combination of extr…
Not allowing moderators to hide behind a share mod account would be helpful so you can actually see what mod is handing out bans.
I also don't see it as necessary or the fundamental issue behind a lack of moderation accountability. The problem with moderation accountability is that Reddit moderation is based strictly on seniority, there's really no effective way for users to protest bad moderation other than moving to another sub, and that's not really that realistic when the badly moderated subreddit has a better and more discoverable name. Admins will also rarely remove active moderators.
Would it be potentially viable to make moderators more like filterers (e.g. like filter lists in Ublock Origin)? You could "subscribe" to a moderator if you like the way they filter content, and if you "unsubscribed" from all moderators you'd get as much of an "unfiltered" view as possible. Bad moderators, over time, would get less and less subscriptions to their filtering of content, and would have to adapt, or be f…
I don't think it would work - Most people never touch which ublock filter they use, so moderators probably wouldn't care too much about maintaining a decent behavior - People would have no idea what mod to pick and just pick the first few top ones, resulting in even more centralization, these people would have insane monetization options - You also have the problem that if a top mod "retires", the combination of extr…
The power-users also (in my mind) determine the community -- if they feel restricted by not being able to post (as the parent link talks about) from heavy-handed moderation, they'd also most likely be the ones willing to change their filters.
> I believe that reddit doesn't want their users to be able to "turn off" moderation, even just for themselves, which you would be able to do by removing all filters [...]
To be fair, at the most unfiltered level, I was still imagining the content would still be "filtered" to cater towards the site-wide rules, and nothing else.
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The trust between YC and Dan regarding HN is probably the whole story about moderation here. Again: people think YC exerts a bunch of influence in how HN is moderated, and I doubt it exerts much influence at all. Dan is running this place the way he'd run it if YC didn't exist.
I'm not sure why you're belaboring the point because whether it's trust or a contractual agreement to run the site a certain way the result is the same. Either way works for my argument which was that the relationship is the difference from reddit's way. I don't care how the relationship is mediated.
Interestingly enough there’s been some mod drama over on /r/AskScienceFiction today. This is a sub where people ask questions and get in universe responses. It’s very nerdy and can be fun. It also can attract a certain type of poster who can be lacking in say, self awareness and take it too seriously. The new Harry Potter game is generating a lot of posts and a particular mod who has personal reasons to dislike JK Ro…
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Hogwart's Legacy the game is simply part of the franchise. It does not promote any sort of political speech. People attacking it are attacking it because they have an issue with the person, not the franchise in which JKR doesn't actually exist.
My perception of JKR is that she was simply a person with a personal opinion, and then it became a holy war against her because certain individuals became enraged that they are not loved and accepted by her and the world at large. They attacked her, which made her defensive and feel more set that there is a problem here.
I am sure that if she had been left alone there would have been many opportunities for dialogue, but that can't happen now.
For what it's worth, I do understand her perspective. She grew up as a female, with a fully female body. It's hard for her to wrap her head around it that someone at age 30 or whatever age can just pop some hormones and request to be a woman. They've never had the fear of walking down the street alone at night, never had the fear of being raped or being the victim of violence, never experienced nonstop discrimination and objectification, never had an ever-present focus over reproductive biology, etc.
All this self-defeating noise attacking JKR just makes people less understanding because they only see 1 side making all the noise.