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Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by dogma1138 »

SakiWatanabe wrote: post #43
dogma1138 wrote: post #35

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Even that isn’t enough since even if you use codenames there will be still enough complementary information to fill the gaps especially if OpenAI knows who you are and if you are coming out of a corporate network they probably have enough information based on your internet connection alone. So say you work for PharmaCorp and you are developing a new drug even if you turn the name of the drug into a code name and you…

Isn’t this the case for all web services as well? Google doc, office 365, aws, Google cloud

No, both from a service and contractural and technical perspective using most SAAS is quite different than using ChatGPT currently.

And overall there is a reason why the USG has their own private AWS zones…

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by hef19898 »

sorokod wrote: post #45
hef19898 wrote: post #20

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I would honestely have doubts giving an unvetted third party, openai through ChatGPT, access to any prorietery or business relevant information.

Depending on the industry and company this may be illegal and grounds for dismissal.

It would violate basically every confidentiality stipulations in any contract I ad in my career so far. I think there is one were it could even have got me jail, worst case. But then there are people leaking classified technical data about modern tanks on wargaming forums...

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by dariusj18 »

hef19898 wrote: post #46
SakiWatanabe wrote: post #43

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Isn’t this the case for all web services as well? Google doc, office 365, aws, Google cloud

Assuming MS isn't conducting corporate espionage in their customers, I'd say no, not the same thing.

If they just use your questions as further training data, the information you send to them might make it into other people's hands.

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by jacooper »

jacooper wrote: post #31
marcosdumay wrote: post #29

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Welcome to the era of bullshit AI bureaucracy, where humans aren't able to even understand the rules, but have to follow them.

I think eventually this would end all of the Bullshit people have to do, because its so easy to read and so easy to summarize by the same AI, so why not just skip it then?

Write* not read

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by layer8 »

SakiWatanabe wrote: post #43
dogma1138 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even that isn’t enough since even if you use codenames there will be still enough complementary information to fill the gaps especially if OpenAI knows who you are and if you are coming out of a corporate network they probably have enough information based on your internet connection alone. So say you work for PharmaCorp and you are developing a new drug even if you turn the name of the drug into a code name and you…

Isn’t this the case for all web services as well? Google doc, office 365, aws, Google cloud

Essentially, yes. One reason not to use them.

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by SakiWatanabe »

dogma1138 wrote: post #51
SakiWatanabe wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t this the case for all web services as well? Google doc, office 365, aws, Google cloud

No, both from a service and contractural and technical perspective using most SAAS is quite different than using ChatGPT currently. And overall there is a reason why the USG has their own private AWS zones…

I see, may be OpenAI should offer a plan to promise only run inferencing and not inspect the data. Or may be collaborate with amazon to serve the model on private AWS zones.

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by fnordpiglet »

rebuilder wrote: post #36
fnordpiglet wrote: post #15

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If it’s making reviewed boilerplate how is it making a judgement call? Having human beings write copious tedious boilerplate isn’t good. It takes the judges mind and applies to tedium rather than using judgement. Further under tedium humans make mistakes.

It’s not really clear to me from reading the article what it did here, but it sounds like the judge asked the bot if there is precedent. If that’s the case, what if the issue is nuanced and the precedents are conflicting - the bot might provide favourable rulings which check out under review, but omit unfavourable ones.

The judge wrote a parallel analysis and included the chatgpt answer, an analysis comparing them, and a final analysis incorporating both his reasoning and the chatgpt reasoning.

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by giancarlostoro »

hef19898 wrote: post #20
giancarlostoro wrote: post #14

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This is how I use chatgpt. “Write me an email explaining to stakeholders that we have x” and then I mention as much detail and whatever it spits out I tweak and go from there. I have been told I write amazing emails but my problem is I spend a lot of time thinking my email over way too much, so I like to see how condensed chatgpt gives me of a template so I can reuse it. I often take a five paragraph email and conden…

I would honestely have doubts giving an unvetted third party, openai through ChatGPT, access to any prorietery or business relevant information.

I give it really generic asks and it says things like [company name]

Re: Colombian judge used ChatGPT to make court decision

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Post by dogma1138 »

SakiWatanabe wrote: post #56
dogma1138 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, both from a service and contractural and technical perspective using most SAAS is quite different than using ChatGPT currently. And overall there is a reason why the USG has their own private AWS zones…

I see, may be OpenAI should offer a plan to promise only run inferencing and not inspect the data. Or may be collaborate with amazon to serve the model on private AWS zones.

This is what Microsoft is doing by brining it to Azure.

It will allow you to use the inference model and possibly even train it further on your data without having all the inputs that are going into ChatGPT right now serve as future training content.

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