Live data from Hacker News

Is remote work bad for the economy?

fractional.work

51–60 of 363 posts

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh... nobody stops going to the barber just because they work from home.

Not only that, who goes to a barber during work hours? That's something that one would assume would happen closer to home regardless, such as on a weekend.

I do?

Usually have a haircut either 8:30 or 9:30 am, and it’s just a few blocks walk from the office.

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#53

The author's answer to the title question seems to be: No. Which I agree with. If the answer was "Yes" however, I would question if that's even a bad thing to begin with. If our economy is reliant on people driving to an office and spending their money at a restaurant, then our economy is pretty terrible to begin with.

I reached the same conclusion but from a different angle: if remote work is bad for the economy, but good for the people who enjoy it, how many other aspects of serving “the economy” are in conflict with serving the people who participate in it? Maybe it’s the economy itself that’s bad. Maybe looking for ways to balance changes like remote work with a bad economic system isn’t nearly ambitious enough. Maybe labor tha…

Free market economies also offer a solution to this problem. Restaurants close due to lack of demand, and the workers find jobs doing something else that is in demand (e.g. food delivery).

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#54
I would suggest that the current economic crises are a massive ocean swell on which WFH is a tiny ripple.

Are some city cafes likely to go under because people aren't coming into the office? Probably.

Are people being forced to eliminate every single discretionary expense so they can pay their bills and eat in the same month? Yes, absolutely. Are some households only surviving because WFH is letting them avoid transport expenses, and reduce food costs? Also yes.

Our mortgage + insurances + rates + mobile/internet + utilities + basic food = almost what we're bringing in this month. And the last payment on the bathroom reno we started five interest rate rises ago will probably be due this month too.

So, define "economy". This bit of the economy would probably run out of money to put fuel in the car if I couldn't work from home.

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#55
It’s been great for my economy. I used to schlep an hour each way on MUNI, 5 days a week, to an open-plan office where the sound of ping-pong games in the background drives me nuts with distraction. Now I’m taking a year to do a work-remote tour of the food capitals of Latin America. I’m currently in La Paz, Bolivia, where a 10-course tasting menu at one of the region’s 50 best restaurants[1] runs $70 USD, with wine pairings.

Anyone who thinks they can put the toothpaste back in this tube is kidding themselves.

1. https://www.theworlds50best.com/discovery/Establishments/Bol...

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#56
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should consider more than your own happiness, we're talking about the economy, this includes local markets, hairdressers, restaurants, municipal areas, parks, etc. There is a pull that cities have, that includes being in close proximity to people who earn a bit more, greater foot traffic, activities, and shops, among millions of other things I guess if you want to sum up everyone else who was a part of th…

With remote work I find myself with a little more time to go to lunch, or out to dinner, or other things that involve spending money in the community around me I didn't have time for when I was commuting.

My co-workers and I don't live near each other so we don't meet up for lunch when we work remote. And it seems like other people skip their lunch so they can sign off early.

When I go into the office, I just eat a bowl of instant spicy noodles (there are few people there these days), and at home I just eat something from the fridge.

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#57
The economy is for the people, the people aren't for the economy, ideally. If you run a business that relies on particular behaviour, like people commuting the office, then I'm sorry things are hard but we do not owe you our business.

Something that seems similar that comes up often around here is when there are proposals to improve the road system to move traffic out of towns. Currently the main highways run through a bunch of small towns, so they get lots of non-local traffic. Frustrating for drivers due to the extra time, and its a safety issue. But whenever changes are happening businesses in those towns are up in arms omg we'll lose our passing trade, don't build the road. They've capitalised on some inconvenience, we don't owe them to keep it around.

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#58
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy people typically don’t spend as much money trying to drown their sorrows in consumer crap, food, and drugs.

No, but hungry people who don’t want to get dressed and leave the house will order a quick meal on Uber Eats at twice the cost of getting it in-person.

Or they prepare something at home

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh... nobody stops going to the barber just because they work from home.

Not only that, who goes to a barber during work hours? That's something that one would assume would happen closer to home regardless, such as on a weekend.

Anyone who works from home? One of the perks is you can run errands during working hours when less people are doing it

Re: Is remote work bad for the economy?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, who goes to a barber during work hours? That's something that one would assume would happen closer to home regardless, such as on a weekend.

I do? Usually have a haircut either 8:30 or 9:30 am, and it’s just a few blocks walk from the office.

To me, it’s a must to shower after a haircut. Getting a haircut before work would leave me with hairs on my neck or in my clothes: Always after work or on weekends
Post reply on HN