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That's not a laptop, but portable (desktop) all-in-one computer. Laptops should have keyboard and everything in one portable package, this is unusable without external keyboard and doesn't have built-in keyboard, thus it's NOT laptop. And I don't care what he says in video, title is clickbait.
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If RPi5 has challenges with Broadcom IP licensing, isn't that an opportunity to create a new SBC product line without Broadcom IP, as many FooPi clones have done?
So much about the full RPi is the Broadcom hardware blocks though. If software didn't really care about those, the FooPi clones would have taken off. Turns out a lot of software targeting RPi actually twiddles those hardware blocks directly.
Review existing RPi commercial use cases to identify features for product segmentation enhancement. Price RPi commercial IP the same as other commercial users of Broadcom IP.
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So much about the full RPi is the Broadcom hardware blocks though. If software didn't really care about those, the FooPi clones would have taken off. Turns out a lot of software targeting RPi actually twiddles those hardware blocks directly.
In that case, Broadcom should be happy that their loss-leading IP has created a gigantic market with unfulfilled demand. They can negotiate a volume agreement with two tiers of product: one for hobbyists, one for commercial integrators. Review existing RPi commercial use cases to identify features for product segmentation enhancement. Price RPi commercial IP the same as other commercial users of Broadcom IP.
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Actually, that frightens me. I know of another powerful, tested, and DIY friendly compact computer: the Raspberry Pi. The Pi got integrated into so many full fledged commercial products that it's lost its availability for hackers. If the Framework mainboard becomes a Super-Pi, will Framework owners be able to get the spare parts that they were counting on?
The rumor is that the pi is having issues because Broadcom (who actually owns the IP in their chips) is pissed that they built a for profit company on top of IP Broadcom donated intending to be going to a nonprofit. Rumor is that's also why there's no progress on an RPi5, as that would require coordination with Broadcom. That would also explain why the Pico had no problems being stocked, as it contains no Broadcom IP…
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He does address this exact concern in the video. He explains that laptops make ergonomic trade offs he isn’t amenable to it, so the whole point was to build a NON laptop.
Well. sure, but obviously still keeping the name "laptop" in the video title is, as always on the good old 'Tube, clickbait. It's not, uh, intellectually honest to say "here's how to build a triple-screen laptop!" and then follow that up with "oh, btw, don't use laptops, desktop computers are better for you, see?". All that said, I did enjoy the build and it's really cool to see both Framework parts being used as wel…
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In that case, Broadcom should be happy that their loss-leading IP has created a gigantic market with unfulfilled demand. They can negotiate a volume agreement with two tiers of product: one for hobbyists, one for commercial integrators. Review existing RPi commercial use cases to identify features for product segmentation enhancement. Price RPi commercial IP the same as other commercial users of Broadcom IP.
They should be. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will be! Broadcom aren't exactly known for an open minded approach to IP.
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We don’t foresee any issues continuing to make parts and modules available, even with increased demand from module re-use projects and products. In fact, we explicitly encourage this kind of re-use, because it benefits everyone. It’s a great way to absorb a Mainboard that is being upgraded out of a Framework Laptop for example, increasing its value for re-sale and avoiding it turning into e-waste.
This is wonderful. Thank you for creating Framework and making it accessible outside of the United States so early on!
I have 2 Frameworks in my UK household as we speak. And when the wife's old Macbook Air gives up the ghost, there will be 3.
That's the coolest impractical laptop I've seen.
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The rumor is that the pi is having issues because Broadcom (who actually owns the IP in their chips) is pissed that they built a for profit company on top of IP Broadcom donated intending to be going to a nonprofit. Rumor is that's also why there's no progress on an RPi5, as that would require coordination with Broadcom. That would also explain why the Pico had no problems being stocked, as it contains no Broadcom IP…
My hope is that eventually will get a Raspberry PI (or something similarly well supported at a software level) based on a RISC V processor that doesn't have these IP issues. I guess it might be difficult to do that for things like WiFi though.
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Actually, that frightens me. I know of another powerful, tested, and DIY friendly compact computer: the Raspberry Pi. The Pi got integrated into so many full fledged commercial products that it's lost its availability for hackers. If the Framework mainboard becomes a Super-Pi, will Framework owners be able to get the spare parts that they were counting on?
The rumor is that the pi is having issues because Broadcom (who actually owns the IP in their chips) is pissed that they built a for profit company on top of IP Broadcom donated intending to be going to a nonprofit. Rumor is that's also why there's no progress on an RPi5, as that would require coordination with Broadcom. That would also explain why the Pico had no problems being stocked, as it contains no Broadcom IP…
The compute model in particular was a mistake IMO. I'm sure they do great business but their original focus is lost.