> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees and that he was “ableist” for commenting on other employees’ “walking pace.”
Wait, what...?
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's kind of the way of things in America. I have the feeling that a large segment of the population believes that a woman is incapable of sexually harassing, a man, and I think this totally inaccurate belief has permeated throughout culture and into workplaces.
> That's kind of the way of things in America I’m not so sure it’s America vs Google. One has to wonder how inclusive and diverse the HR department is
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#53This is why I'm so grateful to work in SWE where skills and progress are somewhat objective. If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks. Their loss. But in management you've spent years at the company building up to your current role, and you're just kinda stuck with people. Can't imagine how stressful it would be to be in that person's position.
where skills and progress are somewhat objective
They are, but then there's this other thing called DEI...
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#54Link to court docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66577374/olohan-v-googl...
> In or about June 2022, both Schiestel and Stewart strongly encouraged Olohan to hire only female applicants for an open management position on his team. Not great for Google executives to be doing this.
There will be no consequences for google. We all know this happens.
A past suit by a recruiter had emails filed as evidence to the court where recruiters were told to cancel all interviews with candidates who were not women or Black. [1]
And yet if you mention this, you're the racist. You're the White nationalist (even though the media celebrates Black nationalism).
Even so--they also have lawsuits alleging discrimination against promoting Black employees.
There's really nothing contradictory about this. Different individuals can be racist in different ways.
[1] https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/01/google-job-quotas-fav... [2] https://www.cspicenter.com/p/what-diversity-and-inclusion-me...
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#55This is why I'm so grateful to work in SWE where skills and progress are somewhat objective. If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks. Their loss. But in management you've spent years at the company building up to your current role, and you're just kinda stuck with people. Can't imagine how stressful it would be to be in that person's position.
> If such a situation occured with my boss I could just resign and have a new job in a couple weeks.
Why should you leave your job because a criminal chose to sexually assault you?
Yes, you could find a new job, but what if you're months away from a major stock grant, a bonus, completing an important project?
Just because you're an engineer doesn't mean there's no penalty to quitting suddenly because someone victimized you.
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#56This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.
That's kind of the way of things in America. I have the feeling that a large segment of the population believes that a woman is incapable of sexually harassing, a man, and I think this totally inaccurate belief has permeated throughout culture and into workplaces.
When I was a young guy way back when, I was sexually harassed at my first two office jobs by women managers. One of them framed it as "payback". Not fun to be on the receiving end of this!
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#57> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.
The full quote from Olohan's filing is kind of peculiar, I'm curious what the deal is with "walking pace": > In response to Olohan’s request during the call for specifics as to why Google believed he was not inclusive, Google’s Employee Investigations team explained that he had shown favoritism towards high performers, which it considered “non-inclusive,” and commented on employees’ walking pace and hustle, which it…
Only shaking my head about this.
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#58Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?
Anyone remembers the film Disclosure from 1994 with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas?
Mostly just the cool VR sequences.
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#59This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.
That's kind of the way of things in America. I have the feeling that a large segment of the population believes that a woman is incapable of sexually harassing, a man, and I think this totally inaccurate belief has permeated throughout culture and into workplaces.
This isn’t surprising. For pretty much all of history and continues today in some places sexual assault and rape were by definition something only men could do. The FBI in 2012 finally updated their definition to recognize that men can be rape victims. We still dismiss teenage boys being raped by adult women as, “I bet he liked it.”
This belief hasn’t permeated our culture, it is the rock on which the very idea of what sexual crimes are [1]. The cultural shift is the other direction thanks to people fighting for it but we’re a long way from the end of the tunnel.
[1] Which is damage to property of a husband or father sooo that’s uhh something. The laws changed on paper but the spirit lived on.
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#60In all honesty, if these things had happened to me, I would've kept quiet since most people won't believe a 20-something male. I was in high school when two of the girls (who were considered hot in our class) grouped me and rubbed their breasts against my back. When I told one of the lady teachers about the issue, she thought I was crazy and making things up.