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Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by switch007 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I’d bet on KeePass 2 longer term. KeepPassCX has been around 10 years (forked from a project started 8 years before that). Actively developed, cross platform.

There are decent apps for android and iOS (eg Strongbox)

I’m going to migrate off 1Password to it soon

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by jorvi »

afavour wrote: post #37
gagabity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

They did? Oh JFC I just switched from 1Password to avoid using a VC backed service. At least there's always Vaultwarden, now all I need is a service I can pay to host an instance for me. ...and to not take VC funding. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden Though I fear it’s only a matter of time before the VC gods demand the client apps remove compatibility and they have to be forked too.

I switched from 1Password to Bitwarden, imported my vault, and then realized that their client doesn’t even support drag ‘n drop.

I’ve been wanting to switch from 1Password to Bitwarden for years, but each year I try it I’m just flummoxed by how atrociously behind the UX / UI still is.

Unless you (or whoever you’re getting to switch) are an absolute open source absolutist: do yourself a favor and go for 1Password.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by sph »

gagabity wrote: post #13
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

Ah for fuck's sake. It keeps happening to all the software I love. I guess I'll have to stop relying on convenience (I was a 1Password user years ago) and go 100% open-source. None of the libre offerings seem to be as convenient and polished, but at least they're not into some VC's pocket ready to squeeze as much profit as possible out of my paid membership.

What's a good OSS alternative that works with iOS and Linux? Anything that's audited? (perhaps that's asking for too much)

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#54

Post by afavour »

mfer wrote: post #46
afavour wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did? Oh JFC I just switched from 1Password to avoid using a VC backed service. At least there's always Vaultwarden, now all I need is a service I can pay to host an instance for me. ...and to not take VC funding. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden Though I fear it’s only a matter of time before the VC gods demand the client apps remove compatibility and they have to be forked too.

Not to totally burst your bubble but 1Password took funding a few years ago [1]. I say this as a 1Password user. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/password-manager-1password-rais...

Oh I know, I switched from 1Password to Bitwarden for exactly that reason.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by antihero »

Jsharm wrote: post #10

Wow this is really cool. I just tried the example on the homepage, that's magic! No email, username or password. Can someone explain what is happening?

On iOS this seems to use the iCloud Keychain which is slick but how would I then login to sites using Firefox or any computer that doesn’t have access to my keychain? The reason I use a 3rd party manager is precisely this reason.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by afavour »

jorvi wrote: post #52
afavour wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did? Oh JFC I just switched from 1Password to avoid using a VC backed service. At least there's always Vaultwarden, now all I need is a service I can pay to host an instance for me. ...and to not take VC funding. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden Though I fear it’s only a matter of time before the VC gods demand the client apps remove compatibility and they have to be forked too.

I switched from 1Password to Bitwarden, imported my vault, and then realized that their client doesn’t even support drag ‘n drop. I’ve been wanting to switch from 1Password to Bitwarden for years, but each year I try it I’m just flummoxed by how atrociously behind the UX / UI still is. Unless you (or whoever you’re getting to switch) are an absolute open source absolutist: do yourself a favor and go for 1Password.

I did try to switch a year or so ago and got really frustrated. Tried again a week ago and Bitwarden does seem a little better. It helps that it feels like 1Password's app has been getting more bloated over time (though I have no data to support that assertion).

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by sph »

zucked wrote: post #39
gagabity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

I'm happy for the one dev who's been lone rangering as I hope it means he's finally getting paid, but the pressure is going to be on to get an ROI.

It is possible to build a profitable business without investors or venture capitals, you know.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#58

Post by jeroenhd »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

You can run the open source VaultWarden server (https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden) on way slower hardware. It takes a while for the project to catch up in terms of API support compared to the official server, but it's great for self hosting.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by antihero »

judge2020 wrote: post #9
xwowsersx wrote: post #3

Could someone clarify what the relationship between passkeys and WebAuthn is? Is it that Passkey is the Apple, Google, Microsoft implementation (commercialization?) of WebAuthn? If so, does it add anything on top of WebAuthn that makes it differ in some fundamental way? Also, are passkeys how WebAuthn is most commonly actually used in practice? Apologies for the noob questions.

Passkeys are effectively software security keys, stored in whatever keychain you're using (Chrome or iCloud Keychain or otherwise); for the major implementations you're hearing about, the goal of their implementation is improving the UX by syncing your passkeys between devices, so as long as you can access your passkey keychain, you won't have to worry about losing your security key for that website. As for how "pass…

It’s cool but until Apple lets Firefox use said keychain I’m not going to use it.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by lumb63 »

sph wrote: post #53
gagabity wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Bitwarden recently raised 100M from VC so yeah, the clock is ticking now.

Ah for fuck's sake. It keeps happening to all the software I love. I guess I'll have to stop relying on convenience (I was a 1Password user years ago) and go 100% open-source. None of the libre offerings seem to be as convenient and polished, but at least they're not into some VC's pocket ready to squeeze as much profit as possible out of my paid membership. What's a good OSS alternative that works with iOS and Linux…

I use KeePass. It’s up to you to sync passwords and they’re stored locally. I see those as features despite that they’re inconvenient.
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