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Re: No Start Menu for You

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There's many other problems with the start menu - specifically search 1) Anything not found opens in Edge™ and not your default browser (WTF?) 2) It loads lazily - so sometimes you hit enter and the highlighted item has already changed 3) Partial searches don't work very well. At this point, I'm wondering if there's a start menu replacement app

I've installed OpenShell as a start menu replacement since Windows 8.

Looks cool, will try it out.

Re: No Start Menu for You

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post #46

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Yes, this is why I turn off search in Spotlight (also for privacy). For window management, please consider using the Rectangle app or some other keyboard window manager. Otherwise, I believe its possible to long press on the maximize button to put your windows on the left or right half.

Rectangle, Rectangle Pro, Magnet are all very nice and make the window management ok-ish on Mac imho. I've made the switch a couple of months ago and the window management without those apps seemed both different but also somehow worse. Now, I'm all used to it and it works good.

I use Moom, it gives me basically perfect snapping and keyboard controls

Re: No Start Menu for You

#53

It seems to be a pattern with (not just) Microsoft products to hang the UI while waiting for some remote API, usually talking to the home base. Happens a lot to me with Office desktop apps - they freeze sometimes for a good second or so while starting and more surprisingly also when closing. One time it bothered me so much, that I recorded an ETW and unsurprisingly the time during the hang was spent waiting for some…

General question for the class... Is there any way to stop this? Is there some entries we can add to the hosts file so that Windows and Office will instantly return as failed, rather than timing out?

Re: No Start Menu for You

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I think search is hard generally. I switched to an M1 Mac pro recently, and it has its own set of challenges. For instance, there is no start menu but a search bar called Spotlight. You do your quick math in there (where you'd call calc.exe in Windows). However, it only accepts your query as math... sometimes. Like 50% of the times. Otherwise it searches the web. If you search for a program, it takes just that tiny s…

Take a look at Alfred: https://www.alfredapp.com/

I’ve been using it since v1, it’s extremely configurable, very very snappy and doesn’t suffer from the common AI-problems, that seems to be forced into searches everywhere these days.

(EDIT: it’s a Spotlight replacement)

Re: No Start Menu for You

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this is why I turn off search in Spotlight (also for privacy). For window management, please consider using the Rectangle app or some other keyboard window manager. Otherwise, I believe its possible to long press on the maximize button to put your windows on the left or right half.

Rectangle, Rectangle Pro, Magnet are all very nice and make the window management ok-ish on Mac imho. I've made the switch a couple of months ago and the window management without those apps seemed both different but also somehow worse. Now, I'm all used to it and it works good.

Had both Mac and pc. Made switch with latest M1 Pro to replace windows pc desktop. Got 49inch ultra wide and 27inch using magnet works great.

Re: No Start Menu for You

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post #34

I think search is hard generally. I switched to an M1 Mac pro recently, and it has its own set of challenges. For instance, there is no start menu but a search bar called Spotlight. You do your quick math in there (where you'd call calc.exe in Windows). However, it only accepts your query as math... sometimes. Like 50% of the times. Otherwise it searches the web. If you search for a program, it takes just that tiny s…

Take a look at Alfred: https://www.alfredapp.com/ I’ve been using it since v1, it’s extremely configurable, very very snappy and doesn’t suffer from the common AI-problems, that seems to be forced into searches everywhere these days. (EDIT: it’s a Spotlight replacement)

Switched to Raycast and never looked back. Incredible tool.

Re: No Start Menu for You

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Wouldn't that make things worse? Those applications usually expect to be able to make these calls. So now, instead of lagging once in a while when the home base is having troubles, it will lag all the time.

> Wouldn't that make things worse? Those applications usually expect to be able to make these calls. So now, instead of lagging once in a while when the home base is having troubles, it will lag all the time. Not necessarily. The lag may be waiting for the remote server to respond to a request, and the app may move on quickly if it can't open a connection at all. It's not totally uncommon to work totally offline (e.g…

In my experience, each time a firewall is blocking a connection, you experience it as a timeout, so the app tries to connect and finally times out.

Which would take longer. I haven't tried though

Re: No Start Menu for You

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I've switched to using PowerToys Run (in the Microsoft PowerToys apps family). It's good to have access to everything in one place (including open windows, settings, ..) and access them without touching the mouse, however the lag can sometimes get annoying. On the plus side it's open source and continuously improved.

Re: No Start Menu for You

#59

Great article. I love Windows deep dives—both because of the supposed inaccessibility of Windows (clearly not true), and because Windows is something I've daily-driven for 23 years, and I've come to really appreciate. If only MS could get its act straight, clean up its UI framework mess (WinUI, WPF, WinForms, Win32, WinRT, MAUI... sheesh) and stop applying stupid regressive updates and dark patterns.

> because of the supposed inaccessibility of Windows (clearly not true) It's a mixed bag and it's far from not true. You get great tools for performance debugging, you get some system symbols, got get system wide tracing... Unless you don't get the symbols. And even then, you often find the element which doesn't work properly and... that's all. Now you know what fails, but not why and you can't do anything about it a…

> Now you know what fails, but not why and you can't do anything about it anyway.

Binary patching is kind of a pain to do on system files these days, but it is possible. Usually not worth the trouble to dig in even more to do Microsoft's job for them, but sometimes it might be.

Re: No Start Menu for You

#60

It seems to be a pattern with (not just) Microsoft products to hang the UI while waiting for some remote API, usually talking to the home base. Happens a lot to me with Office desktop apps - they freeze sometimes for a good second or so while starting and more surprisingly also when closing. One time it bothered me so much, that I recorded an ETW and unsurprisingly the time during the hang was spent waiting for some…

I use Win10 at work and the Calc app lags for like 10s when opening before I can type in it. I firmly remember it started to do that after some reboot update ...

The new calc app has always been a travesty. Taking at least a full second or more to load, with an obnoxiously large interface. The original calculator opened instantly and had a completely functional ui. I get angry every time I need to launch calculator on a machine I have not configured with SpeedCrunch. Almost better to use Excel.
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