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Re: New Mac Mini

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything you said is true; I'll even add that MacOS is probably the best functioning Desktop OS under low memory conditions! However the parent is right, it's disgusting how much memory capacity is needed to run a basic environment. Maybe having exceptionally fast machines with limited ram will cause people to actually think about their resource usage.

> the answer to bloated apps RAM is dirt cheap these days. Bloated apps are bad, but 8GB really is simply a joke that punishes many people for the sake of product categories, at least until RAM is indistinguishable from storage.

Not all RAM is dirt cheap. RAM in DDR4 sockets is dirt cheap.

Re: New Mac Mini

#52
post #45

Why get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.

There's a $700 price difference but I'd say it's definitely worth it if you can swing it.

Re: New Mac Mini

#53
post #40

Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable? The baseline model is 8GB / 256GB, and very reasonably priced at $600. Upgrading to 24GB is a whopping $400, and to 1TB is another $400. The $700 baseline seems reasonable. $1500 for a minimum usable machine seems more than a little excessive.

Apple's pricing is pretty interesting. On the low side they annoy with a hobbled option (256G storage); on the high side they price things to ask "do you _really_ want 2T ssd in this thing?" In the middle is the product they'd like to sell the most. An $800 box with a power cord. Spend the same and get a therma-throttled cpu with iOS and display (iPad); a little more and get a monitor (MBA). Spend double and get a la…

With a desktop device, the classic filesystem packrat might be best off just buying an external HDD with double-digit TB worth of storage and leaving it plugged in all the time.

Re: New Mac Mini

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disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

And a whopping £200 to add an extra 8gb. Ouch.

This is the real problem. M2 is just using LPDDR5. The memory modules themselves don't appear to be anything special; it's just the memory interface bus that is different. Apple is charging multiple times the actual cost per GB, and they do the same thing for SSDs. The entry-level product is a decent value, but the upgrades are ridiculous.

Re: New Mac Mini

#56
post #21

My first thought for this thing is to download Linux, Steam, and all the emulators you can and you've basically got a conveniently sized and priced home theater PC that can play any video game from 1990-2010 or so

You're better off buying an older Intel-based Mac Mini, then. Asahi Linux (Linux for ARM Macs) only supports OpenGL 2 atm. They'll definitely get Vulkan and later GL versions eventually but it will be awhile.

Re: New Mac Mini

#57
post #15
post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

And a whopping £200 to add an extra 8gb. Ouch.

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Re: New Mac Mini

#58
post #45

Why get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.

If you need 32GB in your Mac Mini the price difference is

$1999 for the Mac Studio vs

$1699 for the Mac Mini M2 Pro 32GB.

Indeed that's a tough sell for the Mac Mini. It shows how much Apple is charging extra for those capacity upgrades.

Re: New Mac Mini

#59

All devices should be upgrade-able and repairable by customers, we paid for it and we own it, we have the rights to change it easily. We need to enforce the right-to-repair law fast, and please sue Apple if it does not conform to it(along with its only-me and pay-me-30% apple app-store policy)

Apple have a Self Service Repair program.

Re: New Mac Mini

#60
post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

Oof - once you bump the base model to 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage it doubles the price Apparently Mini RAM hasn't been user upgradable since the 2014 model https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205041#2020

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