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Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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Instead of building the entire stack using (OS + K8) why not use Azure IoTEdge or AWS Greengrass for fleet management? These services seem to have solved a lot of the problems (low-footprint, redundancy, cloud management) already.

Cloud services like those tend to be limited in annoying ways. Also sometimes they simply vanish (@google). The lock in is also a negative.

And they mention that in the article, too.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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> The goal of the Restaurant Edge Compute platform was to create a robust platform in each restaurant where our DevOps Product teams could deploy and manage applications to help Operators and Team Members keep pace with ever-growing business, whether in the kitchen, the supply chain, or in directly serving customers. > (Previous article) Our hypothesis: By making smarter kitchen equipment we can collect more data. By…

I agree that K8s is adding unnecessary complexity here. But the edge computing idea might actually apply in a couple ways.

Mostly though, any data they collect will be very valuable, as forecasting is a core component of fast food logistics. Fast food lives and dies on efficiency.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of building the entire stack using (OS + K8) why not use Azure IoTEdge or AWS Greengrass for fleet management? These services seem to have solved a lot of the problems (low-footprint, redundancy, cloud management) already.

Cloud services like those tend to be limited in annoying ways. Also sometimes they simply vanish (@google). The lock in is also a negative.

The lock in isn't a negative, it's just a cost. If you didn't build it yourself, that was a time and expertise savings. If they go away, you either just use the other vendor, or you have to pay for the time and expertise now, which you would have been paying anyway if you didn't use the vendored solution to begin with.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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All I know is that I can be car #105 in line at Chick-fil-A and I'll get my food faster than being car #2 in line at McDonald's. Whatever they're doing is working.

Yeah, in my experience they are by far both the fastest and most consistent fast food restaurant. I've read they are also the highest revenue per-site chain.

I read that they have an incredibly efficient setup, sometimes in the drive thru you get served 100 places before some competitors.

And they have the best revenue per site.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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Year 2023, FAA systems fail nationwide due to a “corrupt file” and Chick Fil A is highly redundant with a Kubernetes cluster running every store.

Isn’t NOTAM run by a private company already? I don’t think the FAA runs the actual hardware.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloud services like those tend to be limited in annoying ways. Also sometimes they simply vanish (@google). The lock in is also a negative.

The lock in isn't a negative, it's just a cost. If you didn't build it yourself, that was a time and expertise savings. If they go away, you either just use the other vendor, or you have to pay for the time and expertise now, which you would have been paying anyway if you didn't use the vendored solution to begin with.

> The lock in isn't a negative, it's just a cost.

> just use the other vendor,

The point of lock in is to make it not a “just” to use a different vendor.

I also disagree with characterizing it as a cost. It is a negative because of its risk.

Re: Chick Fil A's Edge Enterprise Architecture

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When I was at Walmart the holy grail was edge compute in every store (which I think is now live). There is a mainframe in each store that powers point-of-sale, inventory, etc. But in terms of building modern apps, you couldn't assume 24/7 local connectivity was a thing or that it would be fast enough for what you wanted to do. Making each location its own failure domain was also a huge win. Imagine a cloud outage tak…

>There is a mainframe in each store Nope. vSphere clusters in every store. Possibly the biggest ‘field’ footprint of vSphere that exists.

That might be true, but the heart of every store is an AS/400 or whatever IBM now calls the iSeries replacement.
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