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Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #4

This author seems shocked by this turn of events--with websites trying to be app platforms with embedded web views of websites--as if they are a recent phenomenon... have we all forgotten the (thankfully pretty short) time 15 years ago where everything that mattered suddenly had to be a Facebook app?

I remember the thankfully now extinct, era of browser toolbar add-ons... yikes

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#52
post #36

Reminder: the zoom desktop app has a history of terrible security practices and should not be installed on any machine with data you intend to keep private; use the (hidden with dark patterns) web version instead and never give these people access to your computer.

Seconded. Use the web app, and when you're the one choosing the meeting technology choose more open alternatives like Jitsi (which doesn't even require an account for everyone).

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #26

"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."

I thought the end goal of every company is to become a bank. Valve and Starbucks managed to become banks.

and the goal, the dream, of every human is to live off charging for rent

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #38
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Meet was there before the pandemic, and Jitsi (for an open source alternative) too.

Google meet wasn’t far behind - but it was behind in quality vs zoom. And it wants to herd every user into getting a google account - if you wanted to just meet online with a random group of people zoom had the fewest hurdles.

The simplicity of a non-ecosystem user joining is the key to zoom success.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #2

FYI because it's something of a hidden feature: you can close the Apps dock with the ⋮ vertical dots at the bottom right of the screen!

Probably registers as a positive usage metric for the app bar.

Bingo. Engagement = Good! (even if the engagement is accidental or out of frustration) The line goes up!

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #16
post #13

This is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?

Yes, they allowed companies and public institutions to sign up and use the product for free with quick on boarding. They basically set up a "use now pay later" approach where they allowed lots of leeway to let you figure out need and payments down the road. The competition were charging by the user (you had to commit to some user license number) and you had to go through the regular onboarding process. Zoom was like…

And you could invite anyone, i.e. external 'users'/customers, whoever. Webex allowed that, but not e.g. Teams, which many would already have been paying for via Office365 (ironic name to have and lose on this one).

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#58
post #4

This author seems shocked by this turn of events--with websites trying to be app platforms with embedded web views of websites--as if they are a recent phenomenon... have we all forgotten the (thankfully pretty short) time 15 years ago where everything that mattered suddenly had to be a Facebook app?

And 15 years before that when most internet users would launch apps from an AOL portal.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#59
post #13

This is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?

I don't believe they had any marketing. It's just that no other app was doing group video calls for free at that scale and with that quality at the start of the pandemic. It was the perfect no fuss solution available at the perfect time. Just create a call and copy over the link to whoever you want without them having to create an account.
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