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Even if it was tasteless, would that be morally objectionable? Many people around the world experience oppression because of the faith of others.
A Lecturer Showed a Painting of the Prophet Muhammad. She Lost Her Job
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Islam isn’t a country. It’s an ideology that can be practiced by anyone.
Just one more reason why we shouldn't care. A person's freedom to practice Islam does not imply an obligation from me to give any remote fuck.
> does not imply an obligation from me to give any remote fuck
I don't think this attitude suitable in the diverse community where there are different ethnics or religons. People should care what the other find things unconfortable and should be aware that what you think acceptable is may not so for the others.
Of course if you mean let them do their own things and you do not mean offense or insult them, I thank you for your understanding.
Edit: to clarify what I mean.
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#53Perhaps the bigger question is, should purportedly liberal institutions feel obliged to implement their own version of Islamic apostasy law, as is the case here?
That was my second thought here.
This would not have caused problem in Malayasia, Maldives, Indonesia, Bahrain, among many other countries.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just one more reason why we shouldn't care. A person's freedom to practice Islam does not imply an obligation from me to give any remote fuck.
Nope no obligation, but just as we say for freedom of speech in some other context, like for instance, say you were to use a pejorative term to a person it may apply to, you may not have the "obligation to give any remote fuck" about how they feel about it, likewise that doesn't prevent you from getting punched in the face or being perceived by others as lacking tact/self-awareness.
punched in the face or being perceived...
"or"
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#55This was the wrong decision. Liberal institutions in the west have begun to increasingly yield to the demands of extremist minority views and doing so only emboldens them. You are free to insult white people, Christianity, and non transexual heterosexual men in this country but everyone else is a protected class. Even speaking positively or respectfully discussing the protected classes in a vaguely defined wrong way spurs outrage and likely costs you your job. Its interesting watching institutions act outraged over Florida's "don't say gay" bill while instituting their own version of it that just targets everything else.
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#56The fact that people describing themselves as progressive are fighting to forbid blasphemy has got to be the worst “freedom is slavery” newspeak in the last decade. When did it become acceptable for one sect to dictate what we are allowed to talk about? They are the enthusiastic useful idiots for dark age theocrats, the exact translation of our despicable white nationalists and Christian supremacists.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
We have separation of religion for a lot of things. Schools should be too ( only partial now)
This isn’t about separating religion from school. It’s about having sensitivities for peoples way of life. There are a lot of things you wouldn’t be able to get away with outside of depicting Muhammad in art. And none of them related to Muslims.
How sensitive are Muslims to other peoples way of life?
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#58If Muslims are not OK with their religion and its figures being talked about in ways that are not within the rules of their religion, they shouldn't bring it up, and we should act as if it doesn't exist. You think your prophet was righteous? I don't care, I can't talk about him anyway, so it won't be part of my world of ideas. This has been my position on this topic since I got scolded by a Muslim for not referring to Islam's prophet with the obligatory "s.a.s."
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thus apparently extends to gender or rather sexuality as well recently. I've been banned for asking why my sexuality - heterosexual, is excluded, actually not even asked why but if a flag representing my sexuality existed, since there were a bunch of flags that represented every possible spectrum, even asexuality. I am not at all racist, my best friend has dark skin, but I also can't help but notice that on social ne…
You’ve never had to fight for basic human rights as a white straight person.
What if the commenter is female, or disabled, or doesn't own property, or is subject to the many other axes of marginalization?
It's not all about race and sexuality.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn’t about separating religion from school. It’s about having sensitivities for peoples way of life. There are a lot of things you wouldn’t be able to get away with outside of depicting Muhammad in art. And none of them related to Muslims.
How sensitive are Muslims to other peoples way of life?
It depends from person to person. Anyone I've met who is Muslim seem incredibly tolerant to me.