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Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

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Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#51
Interesting idea, but I don't see many use cases.

Are people really handing their phones out that often?

I only hand my phone to someone else when:

* I've asked them to take a photo of me.

* They're riding shotgun in my car and need to call a contact or navigate with info readily available on my phone.

Neither situation is risk for people snooping around.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#52
The guest mode is a great idea. But for now, if you have very private stuff on your Android phone, you can lock down on an app-per-app basis. This could be a little inconvenient, though, and either you always keep them password protected, or you have to remember to protect them before you give the phone to someone.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#54
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. If you're willing to log out of your smart phone context, and restart any needed tools in the new guest context whenever you hand over your phone. Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted instantaneous user switching? That's a smidgen harder than the 40-year-old solutions :)

> Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted instantaneous user switching? That's a smidgen harder than the 40-year-old solutions :) These OS have been able to run multiple concurrent user sessions for 40 years, and fast user switching has been a feature of all desktop OS since Windows 9x went the way of the dodo. There are specific issues (core services of these systems are probably — sadly — coded with the idea that a single user i…

The biggest issue is resource limitations - multi-user systems require an abundance of resources that phones don't have.

What about the memory overhead of concurrent sessions?

Who gets to run background processes, and when are they terminated? Because neither CPU nor battery life exist in abundance.

What happens to incoming calls/e-mails/texts/notifications? (Especially for the guest account, where you don't have a second phone number for that account)

What happens to e.g. alarms set by user1 if user2 is logged in?

Which settings are shared, which aren't? And if your phone storage is encrypted, how do you handle shared settings? What about privacy? Can user1 e.g. record GPS signals even if user2 is logged in? If not, what about "Find my phone" features?

Sure, conceptually it's a solved issue. Practically, there are innumerable details to be figured out.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#55
The reason I don't log on someone else's phone is not because they don't want me to, is because I don't want to! Just the same reason why I usually don't log in on an untrusted computer.

Maybe just for browsing the internet it would be allright, but I won't hand over my passwords. Isn't there any keylogger yet for android/ios? You don't even need to go by the store/marketplace, just local, developper stuff and there you go. Do you want to log on my machine?

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#56
post #25
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. If you're willing to log out of your smart phone context, and restart any needed tools in the new guest context whenever you hand over your phone. Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted instantaneous user switching? That's a smidgen harder than the 40-year-old solutions :)

You mean Fast user switching? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_user_switching

I mean fast user switching on a resource-constrained portable device. There's a bit of a difference in terms of how to do it. (See also my above post listing some of the issues)

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#57
post #41

a phone in guest mode would be totally useless. case 1: no apps. guest has to install apps. will guest have a itunes/android market account? does he enter his Credit card to buy paid ones he want to use? case 2: apps with no data from real user. He opens up foursquare/yelp to look for a restaurant... has to create profile

"""case 2: apps with no data from real user. He opens up foursquare/yelp to look for a restaurant... has to create profile"""

And that somehow makes it totally useless?

He can: talk on the phone, check his email on the web browser, surf to anything he likes, use any other app that doesn't require a profile, play a game, ..., ..., ...

Even calling case 1 "totally useless" is retarded. He can still do tons of stuff (call, browse, use as calculator, ...) except run apps.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#58
post #16

Somewhat related: I've long wondered why ATM cards don't have something similar. 1234 is my regular PIN. 1235 is my help I'm being robbed PIN -- it dispenses the cash, calls the cops, and tags the video.

Sounds really cool, but I'm not sure what problem it actually solves. Typical ATM robbery today probably ends with the cash coming out of the machine and the robber running away, hopefully without injuring or killing their victim. Victim calls police, they take a report, get the video from the ATM cam, bank refunds the stolen cash, done. In the scenario that you're proposing, the only advantage is that police are cal…

"the only advantage is that police are called about 30 seconds sooner"

Unless the thief takes off with the victims phone as well. Additionally there are sadly instances where the theft at the ATM is just the start of other crimes towards the victim.

Re: Why Don’t Smartphones Have A “Guest Mode”?

#59
post #16

Somewhat related: I've long wondered why ATM cards don't have something similar. 1234 is my regular PIN. 1235 is my help I'm being robbed PIN -- it dispenses the cash, calls the cops, and tags the video.

That would be an excellent idea in countries where people are taken hostage to empty out their bank accounts overnight to get the maximum withdrawal over 2 days.
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