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Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#51
post #29
post #10

Break the terms of service, get mad and write a blog post. It's not even hidden in some legalese; they tell you not to serve majority image/video content _everywhere_ in the UI. All my tunnels are still running great, for free. I could not be happier.

I am not saying I am right. I did break the TOS. They have the right to do what they did. It's just not nice and I don't like them anymore :)

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Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#52
This is a problem of CloudFlare's own making. They provided a lot of services for "free" to gain scale and market share. Now they are a public company, and things are changing. A pro plan does not give you unlimited CDN data transfer, but I've heard from people enough times, "Just do it on Cloudflare for free", and that perception is CloudFlare's making. When you get to the Enterprise tier, CloudFlare works just like a traditional CDN in terms of metered usage and billing.

* I've been using various CDN's since the 90's, and I'm currently a Cloudflare Enterprise customer. However, Cloudflare, not without its faults, is still the best option out there.

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#53
post #10

Break the terms of service, get mad and write a blog post. It's not even hidden in some legalese; they tell you not to serve majority image/video content _everywhere_ in the UI. All my tunnels are still running great, for free. I could not be happier.

While I agree, I think they should set some more objective limits.

Setting a specific limit is going to result in people pushing up as close to the line as possible, instead of holding to the spirit of the policy.

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#54
post #29
post #10

Break the terms of service, get mad and write a blog post. It's not even hidden in some legalese; they tell you not to serve majority image/video content _everywhere_ in the UI. All my tunnels are still running great, for free. I could not be happier.

I am not saying I am right. I did break the TOS. They have the right to do what they did. It's just not nice and I don't like them anymore :)

Er, so do you run around and dive in pools when the rule boards posted everywhere explicitly list those as forbidden, then get mad when you get kicked out?

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#55

I read the terms before signing up with cloudflare for any of my sites, and it was quite clear it's not meant to be used as an image proxy > 2.8 Limitation on Serving Non-HTML Content > The Services are offered primarily as a platform to cache and serve web pages and websites. Unless explicitly included as part of a Paid Service purchased by you, you agree to use the Services solely for the purpose of (i) serving web…

Is js considered as non-html?

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#57
post #10

Break the terms of service, get mad and write a blog post. It's not even hidden in some legalese; they tell you not to serve majority image/video content _everywhere_ in the UI. All my tunnels are still running great, for free. I could not be happier.

Isn’t the payload of most marketing websites majority image content size-wise?

Majority of the bytes? Yes. Majority of the requests? Usually not. Majority of the caches miss bytes? Probably not.

There are probably exceptions, but even the most graphically heavy sites have a decent amount of HTML, CSS, and JS content. This is probably due to Google bot not appreciating excessive image use. Marketing folk typically listen very closely to whatever Google dictates.

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#58
The thing that scary me most is that his business get shut down without any notice period (at least the author not mentioning any previous communications from Cloudflare team about the issue).

This is really a shitty thing from Cloudflare, you cannot shut down an already running business without any notice/grace period.

Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#59

They should just be upfront... "If your service uses a disproportionately large amount of any of our resources for the amount of revenue it generates, we will ask you to either pay extra or leave. We'll try to give you a notice period to leave, but in extreme cases the period will be very short or none at all". Then the TOS should give examples of common things that trigger use of this policy, for example running an…

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Re: Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving

#60
post #6

So how much bandwidth were you using, and what proportion of it was images? Like, is it a obviously cut and dry case or is there actually some ambiguity? (There's some very good reasons to leave terms a bit vague rather than specified exactly, but then you probably wouldn't expect enforcement in cases that are ambiguous.)

Tell me one web site where images and video doesn’t count for most of the size. The time of 35k image on a 50k text page is long gone.

Non-trivial amounts of Javascript for example

https://almanac.httparchive.org/static/images/2021/page-weig...

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