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IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by icebraining »

ugh wrote: post #50
icebraining wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not his definition. Pure means "Not mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material". Here there is JS mixed, hence it isn't pure.

The point. You are missing it. He or she uses CSS for a job for which usually images are used. Hence his or her use of CSS is pure in that sense and it’s also written down that way. It’s not misleading in any way, shape or form. HN. A community of whiny know it alls.

I understand what you're saying. I don't agree with it.

Not that I have any problem with it being pure or not, just with your reply to okal.

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by okal »

ugh wrote: post #50
icebraining wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not his definition. Pure means "Not mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material". Here there is JS mixed, hence it isn't pure.

The point. You are missing it. He or she uses CSS for a job for which usually images are used. Hence his or her use of CSS is pure in that sense and it’s also written down that way. It’s not misleading in any way, shape or form. HN. A community of whiny know it alls.

You can make your point without resorting to insults. I was pointing that it can set the wrong expectation, as I understood it, having seen things such as the game disussed on http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2582457, which is in fact CSS only. Like I said, I think it's is an awesome demo. Out.

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by nirvdrum »

rimantas wrote: post #29
kulkarnic wrote: post #14

Perhaps I'm missing the point: besides a cool demonstration for what CSS can do (when aided by JS), why is this a useful idea? For anything practical, would one not be better off not being a purist, and using images etc? After all, image formats were meant to store graphics. I'm sure I'm missing something, since I've lately seen a lot of these "pure CSS" things. But what is it? [Edit: apparently, it is meant exclusiv…

Doing something in CSS instead of graphics often can let you save some HTTP requests and/or bandwidth — this comes handy if you are into client-side optimization. Also it is easier to update later: just change some values instead of recreating entire image (or set of them). However, depending on the case using sprites or data-uris may by preferable.

I'll take the network hit over the CPU hit (and thus battery life). This page is constantly using about 45% of a core on my MBP in Firefox 9.

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by sequoia »

shn wrote: post #25
duhoang wrote: post #17

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It is just a cool demo that shows us the extent of possibilities. Like the people who bike/run cross country, when a flight from LAX to JFK is under 6 hours.

I wish they donate some of their effort (and knowledge) in a more usable form like helping jQuery Mobile project for a better realistic UI L&F. edit (after 1st? downvote): All I did mean that since he has now a good command of things, maybe he could help JQM. I did not intend to belittle the effort in anyway.

I can't help but roll my eyes here: "I wish all those people painting canvases would paint my living room... now THAT would be useful." This seems to come up every time there's an art project featured on HN. It's art people; it's its own point!

Besides, the fellow did actually seem to have a use for this (scaling up/down, zooming) tho most of that stuff could be achieved more simply with image. Anyway: Hackers -> use tech for fun, not just utility.

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by dextorious »

nirvdrum wrote: post #54
rimantas wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doing something in CSS instead of graphics often can let you save some HTTP requests and/or bandwidth — this comes handy if you are into client-side optimization. Also it is easier to update later: just change some values instead of recreating entire image (or set of them). However, depending on the case using sprites or data-uris may by preferable.

I'll take the network hit over the CPU hit (and thus battery life). This page is constantly using about 45% of a core on my MBP in Firefox 9.

Sure, but the (real or imaginary) savings of this is not about your hit, is about the hit from the server point of view.

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by dextorious »

willwashburn wrote: post #12
lukeholder wrote: post #7

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usually just a text editor.

Not that I don't believe you, but really? For example, any website I've built I can surely make with just a text editor but I'll lay it out with ps first. That way I can go back and check what colors / gradients / dimensions I used to speed up the process. I would image this would require something similar but to the nth degree. That is, I count 20 something tags to make the clouds in the mail icon. Is that really ju…

"""For example, any website I've built I can surely make with just a text editor but I'll lay it out with ps first. That way I can go back and check what colors / gradients / dimensions I used to speed up the process."""

You may be a bit behind the times:

http://37signals.com/svn/posts/1061-why-we-skip-photoshop

http://24ways.org/2009/make-your-mockup-in-markup

Re: IPhone 4 in pure CSS3

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Post by atarian »

dextorious wrote: post #57
nirvdrum wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take the network hit over the CPU hit (and thus battery life). This page is constantly using about 45% of a core on my MBP in Firefox 9.

Sure, but the (real or imaginary) savings of this is not about your hit, is about the hit from the server point of view.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the combined size of an image and its complementary CSS file is less than the size of a 129kb CSS file with "CSS3 images", then don't you essentially lose the benefit of reducing server load?
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