NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video] • Hacker News Board

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by LightHugger » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:23 AM UTC

Jon_Lowtek wrote: post #20

Louis Rossmann claims in this video that the bills text was changed in the last few days, an argument that hinges solely on the text of the memorandum attached to the governor signing it, which mentions an "agreement" between Governor and legislative, and hints at the content of said agreement. The document number mentioned in the memorandum as the signed bill is S4104-A According to the New York State Senate[1] the…

I am also broadly confused about the actual mechanism of how this happened, and the paper trail which seems to not exist.

They probably but it out at this time intentionally while the government lumbers through the holidays...

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by unnouinceput » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:27 AM UTC

harporoeder wrote: post #48

Shameless plug, the organization Louis (and I) work for, FUTO, is hosting a fellowship program sponsoring people to work on open-source software for three months for $20k-$80k and free housing in Austin. Applications are due Jan 1st! https://futo.org/fellows

This is not shameless plug, this is very late plug considering Jan 1st is less than 24 hours away. Should've done it faster, never heard of this until now.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by readonlybarbie » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:29 AM UTC

unnouinceput wrote: post #52

harporoeder wrote: post #48

Shameless plug, the organization Louis (and I) work for, FUTO, is hosting a fellowship program sponsoring people to work on open-source software for three months for $20k-$80k and free housing in Austin. Applications are due Jan 1st! https://futo.org/fellows

This is not shameless plug, this is very late plug considering Jan 1st is less than 24 hours away. Should've done it faster, never heard of this until now.

They've been plugging it elsewhere for quite some time now.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by richbell » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:30 AM UTC

unnouinceput wrote: post #52

harporoeder wrote: post #48

Shameless plug, the organization Louis (and I) work for, FUTO, is hosting a fellowship program sponsoring people to work on open-source software for three months for $20k-$80k and free housing in Austin. Applications are due Jan 1st! https://futo.org/fellows

This is not shameless plug, this is very late plug considering Jan 1st is less than 24 hours away. Should've done it faster, never heard of this until now.

So you're saying they should be ashamed... of not promoting it sooner? ;)

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by kevingadd » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:31 AM UTC

kwiens wrote: post #39

58028641 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The legislature agreed to the changes.

The governor told the legislative sponsors that they had to accept these changes or she would veto the bill. It was accept this reduction, or nothing.

Didn't it pass with a veto-proof majority?

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by zeroCalories » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:32 AM UTC

This is really sad. I don't follow politics, but I didn't think this level of blatant corruption really existed in the US.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by userbinator » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:33 AM UTC

"safety and security"...

I've always thought the infamous Ben Franklin quote, despite this not being the intended context originally, has become a memorable and brief way to show your opposition for this sort of thing.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by a9h74j » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:33 AM UTC

fexecve wrote: post #45

95014_refugee wrote: post #42

For those of us that cannot stand listening to Louis babble on, is there a concise summary written somewhere?

The bill originally was going to make available to customers and independent service centers the same parts and manuals that manufacturer repair centers have. The governor edited the bill slightly in a way that makes it almost useless now. It was edited to say that manufacturers don't have to provide parts if they think that there's a safety issue. They can just make a "full assembly" available rather than individual…

Seems conceivable that this could come back to bite a manufacturer. For example, more cause for "safety recalls", or need to admit in testimony that a major assembly "had a known safety issue". Or might dealers be on the hook for higher certifications of repair technicians?

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by userbinator » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:34 AM UTC

95014_refugee wrote: post #42

For those of us that cannot stand listening to Louis babble on, is there a concise summary written somewhere?

I watched the video at 2x speed. For me, he is perfectly understandable at that speed.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by rychco » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 4:36 AM UTC

zeroCalories wrote: post #56

This is really sad. I don't follow politics, but I didn't think this level of blatant corruption really existed in the US.

Honestly this is a fairly mild example of blatant corruption in the US. It's so commonplace I really wouldn't expect anything less.