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Re: EmailTriager

#51

Post by traceroute66 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #42
codetrotter wrote: post #4

> Note from Kevin! Bear with me, this is just an automatically generated privacy policy. I will get a real one soon. > What you probably want to know is if your emails are safe! Yes, they are safe. All emails are encrypted in transit and at rest. However, to use OpenAI we need to decrypt on the server before making an API request. In the future, I would love to run our own LLM completely in house so your emails never…

I don’t get this comment’s purpose. The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list, it’s not like someone has to be reminded of the importance of it was already called out by the author themselves.

> The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list

Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not.

Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list.

In addition, if you are potentially dealing with users in Europe who are covered by GDPR, a real Privacy Policy is NOT an option, it is MANDATORY.

I'm tired of software developers, irrespective of size, thinking it's a-ok to to take liberties with the personal information of others and/or not be transparent in what they do with your personal information.

The fact you are a mom 'n' pop shop and not Google does not make it any more ok.

Privacy cannot be an afterthought.

Re: EmailTriager

#52

Post by velox_neb »

Rather than a GPT-3 generated email, I would rather receive the prompt that the sender would have used to generate the email.

We could even come up with a conventional shorthand for this.

Imagine you send me a message that just says [[personalized thank you note for the pair of socks you got me for christmas]]. Then I just imagine a long GPT-3 generated message in its place. And I reply with [[gracious acknowledgment and well wishes for the new year]].

Exactly the same intention is communicated, and we both waste less time :)

Re: EmailTriager

#53

Post by mynameisvlad »

traceroute66 wrote: post #51
mynameisvlad wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get this comment’s purpose. The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list, it’s not like someone has to be reminded of the importance of it was already called out by the author themselves.

> The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not. Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list. In addition, if you…

It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed. Furthermore, who are you to tell someone what is required, especially when you’re not paying or even using their service.

Additionally, the existing privacy policy is a real policy. Just because it was generated doesn’t mean it’s not applicable. Not every policy needs to be handcrafted with love.

What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? Have you even read it?

Finally, what exactly is the purpose of your comment? You may think it’s required, and that’s great, but so what? What does that change? Even remotely? Is the author going to get in a Time Machine and go back to before they created their project to make sure a Privacy Policy is the first thing they make? No.

Once again, it’s on the list, the author will appease you eventually. Until then, don’t use the service. Problem solved.

Re: EmailTriager

#54

Post by nixgeek »

traceroute66 wrote: post #51
mynameisvlad wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get this comment’s purpose. The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list, it’s not like someone has to be reminded of the importance of it was already called out by the author themselves.

> The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not. Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list. In addition, if you…

So don’t use the service until they have a privacy policy.

Re: EmailTriager

#55

Post by jejeyyy77 »

traceroute66 wrote: post #51
mynameisvlad wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get this comment’s purpose. The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list, it’s not like someone has to be reminded of the importance of it was already called out by the author themselves.

> The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not. Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list. In addition, if you…

lol privacy policy is definitely one of the things that goes on the TODO list.

Re: EmailTriager

#56

Post by jwilk »

hunter2_ wrote: post #34
EZ-E wrote: post #14

After "sorry, that was the autocorrect", we will have "sorry, that was the AI's response"

We should coin a short word for it, akin to "typo" for "typographical error"... I've been waiting for this to happen with dictation errors in speech-to-text (speako? dicto? the -o suffix would just be an homage to typo) but nothing seems to have caught on. Perhaps it's all just a typo, since the user is generating a typographical error even when the interface is dictation (or anything else) rather than typing via key…

Maybe "computo"?

Re: EmailTriager

#57

Post by traceroute66 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #53
traceroute66 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The site’s author already agrees with you and has committed to making a better privacy policy. It’s on the list Because, my friend, there are some things that go on to-do lists and some things that do not. Launching something that collects personal data AND forwards it to a third party API ? Nah mate, that's NOT something where you can justifiably put "Privacy Policy" on your nearest To-Do list. In addition, if you…

It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed. Furthermore, who are you to tell someone what is required , especially when you’re not paying or even using their service. Additionally, the existing privacy policy is a real policy. Just because it was generated doesn’t mean it’s not applicable. Not every policy needs to be handcrafted with love. What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? H…

> It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed

I'm sorry, but what sort of bullshit is that ?

The law does not differentiate between "hobby project" or not.

It would be the ultimate get-out clause for criminals ... "yes, officer, I'm distributing cocaine, but don't worry, its only a hobby project".

Re: EmailTriager

#58

Post by tsegers »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #41
sigmonsays wrote: post #36

this is a step in the wrong direction. why would I ever want a canned response, even if from AI? Phone IVR systems are already so badly "programmed" you objectively have to say "operator" over and over to reach a person. In this day an age, this is all the more reason to pick up a phone and call someone.

Did you see the email it generated? That’s far from canned. And that’s the point, ChatGPT isn’t a canned email. It’s generated, sure, but you’re not sending the same email to 10 people.

Whats the actual difference between sending ten identical low-effort auto-generated emails and ten unique low-effort auto-generated emails?

Re: EmailTriager

#59

Post by mynameisvlad »

traceroute66 wrote: post #57
mynameisvlad wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed. Furthermore, who are you to tell someone what is required , especially when you’re not paying or even using their service. Additionally, the existing privacy policy is a real policy. Just because it was generated doesn’t mean it’s not applicable. Not every policy needs to be handcrafted with love. What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? H…

> It’s clearly a hobby project, which means leeway is much more allowed I'm sorry, but what sort of bullshit is that ? The law does not differentiate between "hobby project" or not. It would be the ultimate get-out clause for criminals ... "yes, officer, I'm distributing cocaine, but don't worry, its only a hobby project".

> What, exactly, is wrong with the current policy? Have you even read it?

Don’t dodge questions which destroy your arguments and argue against a ridiculous strawman. What, exactly, in explicit detail, is illegal about what the author has done?

And its obvious, leeway is allowed because it’s a personal project. Nobody is about to prosecute someone over a random hobbyist project that is used by a few dozen people. The amount of resources used will never come close to the payout that would come out of that.

Re: EmailTriager

#60

Post by svat »

velox_neb wrote: post #52

Rather than a GPT-3 generated email, I would rather receive the prompt that the sender would have used to generate the email. We could even come up with a conventional shorthand for this. Imagine you send me a message that just says [[personalized thank you note for the pair of socks you got me for christmas]]. Then I just imagine a long GPT-3 generated message in its place. And I reply with [[gracious acknowledgment…

See "Down Pens" by Saki, 1914. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Beasts_and_Super-Beasts/%22Do...
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