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Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by zszugyi »

mmoustafa wrote: post #14

Very sorry to hear. The good news is there’s plenty of options to secure your immigration status while figuring out next steps. USCIS released (somewhat relaxed) guidance on the current environment for non-citizen workers. You can find a list here https://twitter.com/debarghya_das/status/1605392365325205506... In summary, all the “gray zone” escape hatches like the 2 month grace period or the B-2 status change are co…

OP's offer was in Canada and is currently in the EU, I don't think any of the USCIS policies apply to them.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by GoOnThenDoTell »

programmarchy wrote: post #38
hikingsimulator wrote: post #6

Sadly, that's the US for you. The corporate world can be a horror show and sympathetic HR is an oxymoron. I hope you can get yourself out of this bind. Still try to enjoy your Christmas if possible.

> Sadly, that's the US for you. Eat crow, mate.

Um what? The US is terrible in how employees are treated

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by jpiasetz »

I saw this on Reddit yesterday so hopefully you were the op there as well. The advice there was all talk to a lawyer which you should do.

Either: 1) they are incorrect following the law or 2) they are correctly following the law And nobody can tell with 100% certainty either without going to court because law isn’t deterministic.

If it is 1 Amazon could be either: a) incompetently not considering your situation individually and will roll over when it gets escalated b) maliciously offer low and intending to fight it

Both Canada and EU have strong labour laws so probably worth fighting it even if you lose the 1 month

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by jordanbeiber »

phpisthebest wrote: post #26
keneda7 wrote: post #9

In my experience if the company is amazons size yes it is like that. Smaller family run companies treat their employees/prospective employees much better in my experience. It is not always the case but I from my direct experience it has been. I am so sorry this has happened to you.

I somewhat agree, but I have had bad experiences at micro companies as well (companies under 75 employees) My experience the sweet spot is privately held corporations above 200 employees below 1000-2000 employees. Privately held is a key part, all publicly traded companies suck IMO

Can confirm. I have spent some time trying all kinds, and below 2k, not public and preferably founder and majority shareholder as CEO is just perfect.

You have to focus on actual value, and empire-building is kept to a minimum.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by woodruffw »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #40
tyingq wrote: post #17

Rescinding an offer that's tied to a visa is just extra shitty, sorry this happened to you. Surely they know the consequences that you'll suffer. I wonder if the Amazon leadership chain that collectively decided to do this has any remorse. Edit: Feels like something that governments should tie to individual company's ability to use the visa program. Rescind a visa-tied offer (for no-fault-of-applicant reason), and we…

So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

Perhaps it's not a zero-sum game, and nobody needs to be immediately laid off.

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Post by ulfw »

mmoustafa wrote: post #14

Very sorry to hear. The good news is there’s plenty of options to secure your immigration status while figuring out next steps. USCIS released (somewhat relaxed) guidance on the current environment for non-citizen workers. You can find a list here https://twitter.com/debarghya_das/status/1605392365325205506... In summary, all the “gray zone” escape hatches like the 2 month grace period or the B-2 status change are co…

Completely irrelevant to him going to Canada. Not everyone is going to the US.

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Post by ta988 »

Really sorry to hear that. This is a reminder that you should never work for Amazon if you need a visa. Sadly your story is not the first one I heard. The most recent, a friend of mine was promised they would support her visa application after one year working there (which is really simple and cheap for them) and now they say it is against their rules.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by arealaccount »

This happened to me a few years ago, although I did not have to worry about the visa part.

My previous job was more than happy to take me back. It felt gross, but nonetheless I went back. Turned out to be a good bet for them as I remembered and felt indebted to them.

It may work to try to contact your previous employer. In a purely rational context they should take you back and it’s a win for them.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Post by powerbroker »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #40
tyingq wrote: post #17

Rescinding an offer that's tied to a visa is just extra shitty, sorry this happened to you. Surely they know the consequences that you'll suffer. I wonder if the Amazon leadership chain that collectively decided to do this has any remorse. Edit: Feels like something that governments should tie to individual company's ability to use the visa program. Rescind a visa-tied offer (for no-fault-of-applicant reason), and we…

So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

That is something that works under U.S. law. I wonder if such a remedy is available if tried in a Canadian court. Any Canadian attorneys out there.
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