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Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by artur_makly »

I've lived in Argentina since 2006, when I discovered mate.. it changed my whole approach to stable productivity because it would not crash you like coffee.

I'm happy to see this study finally. Surprisingly when I asked my doctor here if there were any studies on it, I was shocked to hear "Oh No!" when asked why.. she responded "1. there is no $ for funding it. 2. No one cares here about the clinical health effects, we all drink it ( +/- 45 million ), it works, and the only thing people care about is how many 'palos'/sticks get into the bag".

Personally, having drank it for 16 years, I do deeply wonder about the long term effects of it on the nervous system, which I don't think the paper addresses.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by sgallant »

MrDresden wrote: post #41
augusto-moura wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a Yerba Mate cold brew called Tereré[1], is very common in some countries of South America. Even more than the hot version in some places. I myself had it many times, sometimes mixed with lime juice, and even mixed with vodka [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terer%C3%A9

Thank you for the suggestion, but I live on a small island in the North Atlantic where availability of goods is not particularly high. I can get the Yerba Mate leaf, but the cold brew I would need to make my self. I was rather trying to see if there was any literature out there on if cold brewing limits or eliminates the PAH extraction.

I too live on a small island in the North Atlantic and I'm making my way through my first bag of Anna Park Yerba Mate (Andrew Huberman recommendation)[1]

Hello from Canada!

[1]https://www.amazon.ca/Anna-Park-Yerba-Mate-Organic/dp/B01B6W...

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by brezelgoring »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #38

I bought a couple of nice bags of what I believed to just be normal herbal tea. Having never heard of this "yerba mate" thing I thought it was just the brand. Once I looked closer at the bags it had a whole load of instructions like "use the pipe" and "don't stir as it blocks the pipe" which was just bizarre. Since when is a pipe or straw needed for tea? I tried to make a normal herbal tea with it but it tasted disgu…

What an incredibly judgemental answer from a person that chides other HN users for their choice of programming frameworks.

> Total waste of money and seems like an incredibly hipster and convoluted drink to need all that crap including a straw.

It is the opposite of hipster, the drink has been in use for 400 years in South America, and is appreciated by millions.

> I just stick to herbal tea bags now.

Stick to skim milk, it fits you better, child.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by lloydatkinson »

brezelgoring wrote: post #53
lloydatkinson wrote: post #38

I bought a couple of nice bags of what I believed to just be normal herbal tea. Having never heard of this "yerba mate" thing I thought it was just the brand. Once I looked closer at the bags it had a whole load of instructions like "use the pipe" and "don't stir as it blocks the pipe" which was just bizarre. Since when is a pipe or straw needed for tea? I tried to make a normal herbal tea with it but it tasted disgu…

What an incredibly judgemental answer from a person that chides other HN users for their choice of programming frameworks. > Total waste of money and seems like an incredibly hipster and convoluted drink to need all that crap including a straw. It is the opposite of hipster, the drink has been in use for 400 years in South America, and is appreciated by millions. > I just stick to herbal tea bags now. Stick to skim m…

What on earth are you on about? Seems to fit the very definition of "triggered".

Are you really so upset I don't like your drink, you'll bring up conversations about programming frameworks and resort to calling people children?

Wow, personal attacks, I hope a mod takes a look.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by totalZero »

MrDresden wrote: post #41
augusto-moura wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a Yerba Mate cold brew called Tereré[1], is very common in some countries of South America. Even more than the hot version in some places. I myself had it many times, sometimes mixed with lime juice, and even mixed with vodka [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terer%C3%A9

Thank you for the suggestion, but I live on a small island in the North Atlantic where availability of goods is not particularly high. I can get the Yerba Mate leaf, but the cold brew I would need to make my self. I was rather trying to see if there was any literature out there on if cold brewing limits or eliminates the PAH extraction.

The only difference is using ice water instead of hot water. Preparation is the same: fill the gourd with yerba, pour water, spit out the first mouthful to clear the dust, pour water again and drink.

In other words, if you have the leaf you can make either version.

Apparently the cold version has less PAH. Not sure if this is a practical concern but for what it's worth there's literature.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09567...

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by nbk_2000 »

artur_makly wrote: post #46
nbk_2000 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends upon which flavor you find objectionable. If you don't like the taste of very strong green tea, then yerba mate may not be for you. However there are several other factors that can lead to yerba mate tasting bad. First is the quality and freshness of the yerba. It should be 6 months or less since it was packaged (check date stamps). It should be made with 80-85* C water (too hot, and it will be super bitter).…

1. add some raw sugar ( 1 teaspoon per gourd ) 2. try the smoked 'Barbacua' flavor https://www.amazon.com/MERCED-Barbacua-Cosecha-Limitada-500g... it rocked my world.

If you love La Merced Barbacua, try to get a hold of some of the Barbacua from Sol y Lluvia, it's by far the best smoked yerba I've ever had!

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by jcarrano »

artur_makly wrote: post #51

I've lived in Argentina since 2006, when I discovered mate.. it changed my whole approach to stable productivity because it would not crash you like coffee. I'm happy to see this study finally. Surprisingly when I asked my doctor here if there were any studies on it, I was shocked to hear "Oh No!" when asked why.. she responded "1. there is no $ for funding it. 2. No one cares here about the clinical health effects,…

There are studies: https://inym.org.ar/descargar/publicaciones/mate-y-salud/bas...

Also, INYM has codified the procedures regarding analysis procedures.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by ianai »

artur_makly wrote: post #51

I've lived in Argentina since 2006, when I discovered mate.. it changed my whole approach to stable productivity because it would not crash you like coffee. I'm happy to see this study finally. Surprisingly when I asked my doctor here if there were any studies on it, I was shocked to hear "Oh No!" when asked why.. she responded "1. there is no $ for funding it. 2. No one cares here about the clinical health effects,…

For long term effects, ask the long term drinkers of it. Sounds like you may have family who have drank it for a long time. They’re way better as a guide (with significant noise) as to what you could expect.

This is of course not scientific in the usual sense. But family history is another thing.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by MrDresden »

sgallant wrote: post #52
MrDresden wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the suggestion, but I live on a small island in the North Atlantic where availability of goods is not particularly high. I can get the Yerba Mate leaf, but the cold brew I would need to make my self. I was rather trying to see if there was any literature out there on if cold brewing limits or eliminates the PAH extraction.

I too live on a small island in the North Atlantic and I'm making my way through my first bag of Anna Park Yerba Mate (Andrew Huberman recommendation)[1] Hello from Canada! [1] https://www.amazon.ca/Anna-Park-Yerba-Mate-Organic/dp/B01B6W...

Well yes, my island is not disconnected from the wider world.

It is just prohibitively expensive to ship individual products in.

Also there is no Amazon or its like here.

Hello back from Iceland!

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

MrDresden wrote: post #34

Yerba Mate got me through university. It was such integral part of that time of my life that even now more than a decade later I still meet people who remember me as the strange tea pipe guy (I used a traditional gourd and metal bombilla). However I stopped drinking it once it got known to me that it might have cancer causing properties. Scanning the article I can see there have been direct connections made via PAH c…

Hrm. Regarding cancer, you could say the same about tea. Why would that be? Maybe because most drink it too hot? Hot fluids are bad for your esophagus over long times. So let it cool down?
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