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PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.

I came here because the walls of text on this tell me a bunch of very specific features (especially new ones) without telling me what this does. I assume it’s a decentralized video app, that you run yourself, but I can’t find even a little bit of description.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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> Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. The main problem aren't privileged actors like ISPs (although shit like asymmetric DSL or CGNAT definitely prevents people from self-hosting)... it is abuse and the complete unwillingness of almost everybody from private actors over govern…

You're right that there are a lot of bad actors out there, but in my experience they are pretty easy to deal with if you set things up right. The biggest annoyance for me self-hosting has been ISP refusing to give static IP and decent upstream bandwidth. I've hosted my own website and email server for decades. It does take a little work to keep up with things like DMARC, reverse DNS etc, but if you get a good score o…

> You're right that there are a lot of bad actors out there, but in my experience they are pretty easy to deal with if you set things up right.

Sure, it's possible to defend against hackers to a degree, but even using a completely static website still leaves you open to attack surfaces in the webserver software or to remotely exploitable vulnerabilities in the Linux network stack.

> FYI you are misusing "greylist."

I assume we share the definition of "greylisting" to be the receiver MTA blocking the first delivery of an incoming email with "try again later", and the sender MTA then retrying after that time frame? If yes then this exactly describes my experience in administrating self-hosted mail servers with popular large mail providers.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

> It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone.

I think maybe you misunderstand PeerTube? It is exactly what you say the internet should be.

You can use it to host your videos yourself, on your own computer, and make them available to whomever you want to.

You can use a hosted version too, but it's not required. It's also completely possible to host in your own cupboard, or to use a cloud server you control. On whatever instance you use, you can still talk to your friends directly, through peer-to-peer connections to whichever instance they choose to use. It does even support RSS, and other PeerTube instances do indeed cache the video locally!

It has its own new set of problems of course, but it does seem like it's a strong step in exactly the direction you're interested in.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Hosting large files from your house is a good way to have a saturated upstream all the time. P2P protocols like gnutella and later bittorrent are a way to distribute files without putting all the load on one host. Not to mention all the liability for pirated content.

Only because the ISP's made it that way. Having 1Gbps down and 10Mbps up. You are forced into consumerism of bandwidth instead of a peer. ISP's don't want competition so you'll never be a peer.

Fiber internet often gives you 1Gbps up.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Question about Peertube: Is it possible to personally view and verify each uploaded video, as the host/admin of the service? (time constraints aside) My concern is, that if I host a peertube instance and anyone uploads illegal stuff, I am going to hang for it. So perhaps I would like a Peetube instance just for my friends an me, where I can personally review each video, to not get into trouble. Basically doing the jo…

@zelphirkalt I am not a lawyer, but big U.S. companies like youtube, vimeo, etc. leverage Section 230 of the (U.S.) Communications Decency Act of 1996 in order to mostly protect themselves from scenarios that you referenced (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230). Yes, they still take stuff down, but the intent of this section of the law was to protect YOU and those other companies. Of course, there is big discussions about removing this protection...But for now, this is what those big boiys/girsl use, so why not use it youyrself? Of course, *DO CONTACT* your legal technology representative to be sure.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

#56

PeerTube is basically developed by a single guy and has solved the infrastructure problem that many organizations have when wanting to host videos. Any organization can now host VoDs and live events on their own server(s) without being bled to death by the hosting provider since the badwidth will be shared among the concurrent viewers. This is such an underappreciated piece of technology that I hope many intitutions…

Is it possible to embed PeerTube videos within your own custom frontend or are you forced to use theres? As in, could someone create a clone of the New York Times for example and within each article have a video embedded (from PeerTube tech)? I've wanted to create a combat themed video site for years, since most sites get censored, and PeerTube always seemed like a perfect solution.

I'm not sure if the following link is exactly what you need (you'll need some more info)...But, i thinki it is in the direction that you need: https://docs.joinpeertube.org/api-embed-player

Basically, what you are asking is possible, and you should navigate around the documentation specific to the Peertube api. (Sorry, trying not to sound like a guy who responds with "RTFM"....but, i guess i sort of am; sorry :-)

But, hey, what you want is possible! :-)

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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This actually makes me sad :( Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse. It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone. This is how early protocols were designed. Everyone was supposed to…

> Hear me out: the Internet was supposed to be about peer-to-peer connected computers, and the privileged roles ISPs and later "cloud" providers assumed changed that for the worse.

No it wasn't. The internet was supposed to be a a global network of networks, and it is.

> It was SUPPOSED to enable me, myself, hosting my videos, on my computer(s) and making them available to whomever I want to, including everyone.

No it wasn't. ARPANet was supposed to be a network of computing facilities that could withstand a nuclear attack, and Internet was the effort of opening up such infrastructure to scientific and commercial entities (universities and companies). For quite a while the idea of the general public having internet at home wasn't even an idea.

> Everyone was supposed to be a SMTP (e-mail) host.

No they weren't. Pretty much nobody had their own dedicated computer, and they just had a shell account on a shared computer dedicated to a specific organization. And the administrator of such computer would set up mailing facilities on such host. Hence the local-delivery (/var/spool/mail and stuff).

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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I truly like PeerTube as a technology, however I still haven't managed to build even a minimal stock of PeerTube based content creators I'd enjoy to follow. On Youtube it's easy, there's much more high quality content about any topic imaginable than I ever could watch in my limited time on this planet, but on PeerTube instances I haven't found anything that made me come back to that particular creator. So my question…

Why? From your comment I get that you haven't checked into peertube in a while. There is tilvids.com that is slowly becoming the premier high quality peertube instance that is taking baby steps into being an educational instance. They will gladly host any creator if they align with their goals. Besides, if a cooking creator wants to roll their own instance, invite other cooking creators to join in, tilvids.com would…

Thanks for mentioning tilvids.com! You got me to subscribe to like my second Peertube channel: https://tilvids.com/c/veronicaexplains_channel

I'll say that the depth and breadth of topics still seems lacking (lots of meta content about FOSS and the fediverse, which is only interesting to early adopters), but if it becomes easier to start, join, and use Peertube instances, I feel confident this will change over time.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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I truly like PeerTube as a technology, however I still haven't managed to build even a minimal stock of PeerTube based content creators I'd enjoy to follow. On Youtube it's easy, there's much more high quality content about any topic imaginable than I ever could watch in my limited time on this planet, but on PeerTube instances I haven't found anything that made me come back to that particular creator. So my question…

> I still haven't managed to build even a minimal stock of PeerTube based content creators I'd enjoy to follow.

May I shamelessly suggest that you check out my PeerTube channel that I host on my server? :)

I have only one video so far, but will make more videos in the future.

This channel is about programming, system administration, and computing.

In the first video we (royal we) look at using ChatGTP to solve the first of the Advent of Code problems in Rust.

The video is called “No Brain Required - ChatGPT solves Advent of Code in Rust, episode 1”. So named for reasons that will become apparent when you watch the video :)

https://video.nstr.no/w/6z7PxB4J92H3NHhgMmfYVw

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? From your comment I get that you haven't checked into peertube in a while. There is tilvids.com that is slowly becoming the premier high quality peertube instance that is taking baby steps into being an educational instance. They will gladly host any creator if they align with their goals. Besides, if a cooking creator wants to roll their own instance, invite other cooking creators to join in, tilvids.com would…

Thanks for mentioning tilvids.com! You got me to subscribe to like my second Peertube channel: https://tilvids.com/c/veronicaexplains_channel I'll say that the depth and breadth of topics still seems lacking (lots of meta content about FOSS and the fediverse, which is only interesting to early adopters), but if it becomes easier to start, join, and use Peertube instances, I feel confident this will change over time.

sure. this seems to be a one passionate guy operation so its only so much the guy can do.

i literally remember this guy coming on peertube github and reading about him explaining how he was planning to set up a educational instance.

anyway, as i said, this is an experiment supposed to urge more people to take the plunge into becoming hosts and managing their communities. If there is a bad apple down the road, the community can self adjust accordingly.

the point is, people need to be aware about choice. this is doing a good job

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