Video games made in the USSR (2020) • Hacker News Board

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by asveikau » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:45 PM UTC

rosnd wrote: post #50

shmerl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article looks neutral (besides for spelling of city names using Russian notation).

Which, to be fair, is something that much of the Ukrainian population still does. It's mostly foreigners that see this as something important.

A lot of Ukrainians I know seem to be speaking much more Ukrainian than they did a few years ago. People from Russian speaking towns.

There does seem to be a serious de-russification vibe, stronger than ever and definitely not just something foreigners are interested in.

I'll give just one small example that I'm reminded of... There's been a lot of drama about signs when you enter a town. Russians will capture a town, paint the sign with their flag, change spellings to replace і with и, etc. Ukrainians will recapture, repaint, and switch to their spelling... It's a thing.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by xkcd1963 » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:52 PM UTC

lvl102 wrote: post #29

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You gotta google a bit more my friend

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by p_l » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:53 PM UTC

anotherstalker wrote: post #23

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

Care to highlight interesting examples and industries for us unlearned?

A lot of rocket/spaceship control systems and related components were designed and produced in Electrophibor in Kharkiv, East Ukraine.

Yangel OKB, designers of the frankly speaking ridiculously overpowered R-36 ICBM series was in Ukraine (including work for turning R-36 into Tsyklon and Dnepr satellite launchers), as well as teams responsible for Zenit carrier rocket (also used as boosters on Energia).

There was also other R&D and manufacturing works scattered across Ukraine, but outside of those and already mentioned Antonov they were mostly related to areas that weren't my hobby so I can't recite them from memory. Lots of heavy industry related to tanks and related vehicles near Kharkiv, at least.

EDIT: Also, post USSR breakup Ukraine ended up having to run a nuclear "weapons" program despite disavowing nuclear weapons - because they had full chain nuclear weapons industry from raw materials to final warhead assembly, and it was considered good idea to keep those people employed lest they be hired out by more militant places.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by trasz2 » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:06 PM UTC

lvl102 wrote: post #27

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

Yeah I learned that the Russians constantly harassed Ukraine for hundreds of years.

It's a bit more than that - the Russian part of civilisation came _from_ Ukraine. Kiev is much older than Moscow, and that's not something Rashists can forgive.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by Waterluvian » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:11 PM UTC

anotherstalker wrote: post #23

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

Care to highlight interesting examples and industries for us unlearned?

The sole Russian Carrier today was built and docked in Ukraine. When the USSR collapsed Russia stole and basically destroyed it out of sheer incompetence.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by murdoze » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:20 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

Have you heard of the Address Programming Language?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsLlYY50zec (English subtitles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxgFR_tK0iA

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by russianman » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:23 PM UTC

lvl102 wrote: post #27

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

Yeah I learned that the Russians constantly harassed Ukraine for hundreds of years.

It’s not true. Modern Ukraine was created not hundreds of years, but just in ~1920. Google a bit more)

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by vbernat » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:25 PM UTC

The Youtube video for Perestroika is missing the sound from the intro because the game was skipping it if the CPU was too fast. I remember hearing it on a "Victor" 286 (16 MHz, but I am not sure). This recording has the sound intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IpYuXJ6u6A. This was quite amazing to get something like that out of a PC speaker. I don't think other games of this era was able to do that.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by kgeist » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:26 PM UTC

qsort wrote: post #39

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

The association "USSR = Russians" is part of the systematic attempt by the soviet regime at cultural (and sometimes literal) genocide. The 90th anniversary of the Holodomor was just two weeks ago.

>The association "USSR = Russians" is part of the systematic attempt by the soviet regime at cultural (and sometimes literal) genocide.

Using "Soviet" and "Russian" interchangeably was, in my opinion, mostly a Western phenomenon. I don't remember Soviet propaganda mixing the two. It always felt weird to me when in Cold War Hollywood movies they would refer to USSR as Russia, or Soviets as Russians. You wouldn't do it here. Usually they put emphasis on "Soviet man", not on particular ethnicities.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by skhr0680 » Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 11:27 PM UTC

batter wrote: post #36

RugnirViking wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The soviets made a pretty good go of turning a theistic feudal monarchy largely with an economy focused on agriculture into the second biggest industrial power in the world for almost a hundred years. Certainly not perfect, and horrible to live in in many ways, but better at building an economy than a lot of other similarly sized places.

'second biggest industrial power' assume this is a joke. Poor quality: anything that was made was so bad, this habit is still alive and even russians hate their own products. Stealing: ancient car designs and engineering is good example. And as you know it never improved. Millions of lives were taken to achieve nonsense goals, people were starved, frozen, deprevated from food. What kind of human you have to be justif…

I have a Soviet camera lens built for the domestic market (so worse quality) from the 80s and its build and optical quality is fine. It doesn’t compare to similar vintage lenses from Japan but was much cheaper new at the time.