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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by scott_w »

mgerdts wrote: post #34
nigamanth wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, yeah there are professionals who don't have English as their first language, but I mean making a mistake in the most basic punctuation marks? Sure if he doesn't know the difference between "it's" and "its" then it's fine, but if he doesn't know how to properly use commas in a sentence then one must question his professionality. Additionally, there was no way he couldn't have had access to automation.com

I find it fairly common for people that do not have US English as their first language to not use punctuation the way that I was taught in school. I do that too when I think the punctuation is wrong for what I'm conveying (especially . or , inside quotes, when quotes are a command). Non-native people commonly use quotation marks that I don't know how to produce with my keyboard, put $ after the number, etc. A space b…

> The somewhat read flag is "kindly" (likely Indian?) with "Marc" (likely not Indian) but it's common for people with a name that's difficult for Americans to understand/spell to use an Americanized name.

This is usually a Chinese thing, though. Indian people tend to just use their own names. Even then, a Chinese person would incorporate some of their name e.g. Mark Li.

I’m not blaming OP here, of course. As he said, he was tired and it takes real bravery to put your hand up and say “I was nearly scammed!”

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by kshacker »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

10 years is long, so yes.

But looking at the last 2 years - hardly written any cheques (checks).

But I do receive checks. From mortgage refinancing company, from escrow, from FSA/HSA (probably could get it electronic, but I have failed twice to get this set up, and now I do not even bother), and recently some ROTH conversions since the company refused to do bank transfers any more so they make me receive and deposit checks.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#53

Post by geocrasher »

snotrockets wrote: post #41
nigamanth wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, he gets the job and then they suddenly run into a lot of errors and whatnot and he has to pay their check. When he tells them its a scam, they start questioning him lmao. Look at their bad grammar in the full conversation though, this was the last dead giveaway.

It's not bad grammar. It's just not American English.

False.

"Do you track the check" "I will send you later" "A IT director Lead from the company..." "...by purchasing the home office equipments..." "Immediately the funds are available, you will be directed..."

That's not even mentioning the smorgasbord of run-on sentences, weird capitalizations, etc. Yes, there's a lot of non American English. But it's presented as coming from an American given that the job listing is all US and that name is an American (or at least Anglo) name.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#54

Post by incone123 »

gpm wrote: post #15
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

I've paid rent using cheques to multiple different landlords within that time frame. US and Canada. I've received money from the Canadian government using cheques in that time frame too, but admittedly you could just special case the government. I've received prize money from a university run contest during that time frame using cheques (barely in the time frame, small sum of money), and I know others who have receiv…

I've received refund cheques from big companies. I assume they expect some not to get cashed since they were happy to take my earlier payments online.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by tasty_freeze »

Sadly, my daughter got scammed earlier this year. She is a recent college grad from a liberal arts school, and had been working six months doing retail work after graduation.

Looking to make use of her degree, she was excited to get a job offer doing remote work as an office coordinator. She has a dog so working from home was a plus, and $25/hr instead of $16/hr doing retail was a big raise.

She not only lost $3000 from the scam check, she also lost her old job, having given two weeks notice and didn't realize it was a scam until she was gone. The thing that pained her the most was the shame of having been scammed.

Although some red flags were there, her main blind spot was the disbelief that scammers would go to so much effort to (a) set up an entire website for the fake company, (b) were willing to spend hours in the fake interview, and (c) having her do two weeks of "training" courses while they waited for the laptop and other things she bought made it it cross country into their hands.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#56

Post by dghlsakjg »

Nursie wrote: post #46
tbrownaw wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once a month for the water bill, because the city charges extra to pay online with a card. I think there are rules that say they have to? A year or two ago when we had a tree service come out to trim some things. Before that, when we had a fence redone. Both of those were smaller local companies.

Here's a question, where you are, does "Direct Debit" exist? In the UK and here in Australia, when I set up a utility account I get a message saying "why not set up a direct debit?", which means that a transfer goes straight from my account to theirs at the alotted time each month, for the amount of the bill. You get your usual bill usually a week or two before the debit goes out so you can make sure it's OK well bef…

Yeah. In the US some companies are able to do direct debits via the ACH system. That's how Venmo works under the hood for checking accounts.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by aidenn0 »

baking wrote: post #29
windowshopping wrote: post #3

Could anyone be so kind as to comment a tl;dr of this one? I am curious but it was very long and I haven't the time at this moment.

The twist was the check was to cover his purchase of computer and supplies for his home office and after he deposits it he is told to wire $8,000 to a vendor for the equipment. Implied threat is that he is stealing from them if he doesn't wire the money. Of course even if he waits for the check to clear, the bank will still come after him for the money in a couple of weeks which is usually how long it takes for these…

IANAL, but the mail fraud laws in the US includes interstate delivery via private carriers, so if they catch the scammers it's still a felony. It seems likely that USPIS wouldn't be involved though.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#58

Post by silisili »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #55

Sadly, my daughter got scammed earlier this year. She is a recent college grad from a liberal arts school, and had been working six months doing retail work after graduation. Looking to make use of her degree, she was excited to get a job offer doing remote work as an office coordinator. She has a dog so working from home was a plus, and $25/hr instead of $16/hr doing retail was a big raise. She not only lost $3000 f…

Sorry that happened to her.

There's also some mental concept where people already got started or went so far, and subconsciously don't want to believe they've been had, so keep going. I'm sure there's a name for it, I can't be bothered to look up. It's why romance scams are so common, and also why that McDonald's manager undressed that employee, for example. Fascinating, but sad.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by ycombobreaker »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

yes.

Edit in case a simple answer is viewed as stifling discourse: I probably write around 20 checks per year. Mostly to local vendors/laborers or for youth fundraising activities. I receive checks for fundraising activities that I host. Venmo is basically the same, and getting more common.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

#60

Post by asvitkine »

mgerdts wrote: post #34
nigamanth wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, yeah there are professionals who don't have English as their first language, but I mean making a mistake in the most basic punctuation marks? Sure if he doesn't know the difference between "it's" and "its" then it's fine, but if he doesn't know how to properly use commas in a sentence then one must question his professionality. Additionally, there was no way he couldn't have had access to automation.com

I find it fairly common for people that do not have US English as their first language to not use punctuation the way that I was taught in school. I do that too when I think the punctuation is wrong for what I'm conveying (especially . or , inside quotes, when quotes are a command). Non-native people commonly use quotation marks that I don't know how to produce with my keyboard, put $ after the number, etc. A space b…

Space before a ? is the correct punctuation in French, for example.
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