> Our Trust & Safety team... remains strong and well-resourced...
> ...impressions on violative content are down over the past month...
I think both of those claims are demonstrably false.
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#52First Twitter was going to crash in a week, then it was everyone would flee to Mastodon, now it’s that all the advertisers would leave. Maybe Twitter really didn’t need 7500 people, and maybe having more voices speak is a good thing (there is always block button), and maybe advertisers won’t flee forever. That seems more likely to me than Twitter imploding.
That was the talking point last week and the week before. You need to get up to speed with the latest outrage narrative. Don't worry about following up on any of it. There will always be a new one ready to go. Writing Elon articles is like the 'easy button' of mainstream media. It will always generate clicks which is a great way to advance your career as a professional 'content creator'. Just focus on this while the rest of the uninteresting world goes under reported.
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#53'Town Square' is a misnomer on their part. The town square is the Internet at large and not some single silo'd gatekeepery app.
Its certainly a town square, just because you have your own little tavern/forum doesn't mean the town square isn't the town square.
It isn't a town square - a town square is public. Twitter is a private organization. In this case, Twitter is the tavern. The Internet is the town square.
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#54First Twitter was going to crash in a week, then it was everyone would flee to Mastodon, now it’s that all the advertisers would leave. Maybe Twitter really didn’t need 7500 people, and maybe having more voices speak is a good thing (there is always block button), and maybe advertisers won’t flee forever. That seems more likely to me than Twitter imploding.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter was previously doing A/B tests. Spaces, communities, downvotes, circles, and even moderation were applied only to a subset of accounts while they actively experimented. The new policy is an objectively less scientific approach to testing functionality than what was occurring before.
It's not like A/B tests approach anything like the rigor that we expect from actual science, though.
> actual science
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Many quality studies are A/B tests. A/B just refers to the two IV states you're testing, which you're then observing a DV - sales, engagement, errors, etc.
A/B tests can be double blinded (don't tell the error monitoring people which results are from a trial), and have high number of samples, far beyond even most pharmaceutical trials.
They can also be really crappy, changing too many variables at once, etc. But they are certainly "real science".
EDIT: an example, Drug vs placebo - is an A/B test.
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#56Twitter is totalled. There is no recovery or any amount of repair that will convince anyone that the platform is worth consuming or saving.
Looking at the speed with which this post goes up the HN page, I would say that Twitter is still very relevant.
Some people enjoy observing dumpster fires
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#57> What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation including I suppose Elon's experimental approach to management. I hope that in 10 years, we will look back at this twitter 2.0 (= musk's debacle) as the impetus that lead to more widespread adoption of social media 2.0 (= federation) I already see the snowball effect getting momentum with all this coverage (NPR, NYT...) and big name exits (Apple...)
It won't. Federation doesn't solve any of the problems Twitter now has.
That instead of one poorly managed understaffed silo full of trolls and abusers you have 2000 poorly managed, even more understaffed systems with 2000 different approaches to moderation and content doesn't make anything easier or fixed for people who use Twitter today.
It is the same like we had federated chat with Jabber for 20 years now - and nobody uses it. The best implementations of it ended being the nonfederated ones - like Google Talk or I believe Whatsapp used that protocol. And apart from nerds and some engineers literally has no clue that something like XMPP even exists.
People don't care about the technology, they care where they want to communicate with their friends and network.
The Twitter issues are first and foremost human, business, management and social problems, not something you can throw some network protocols and technology at and declare it solved.
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#58First Twitter was going to crash in a week, then it was everyone would flee to Mastodon, now it’s that all the advertisers would leave. Maybe Twitter really didn’t need 7500 people, and maybe having more voices speak is a good thing (there is always block button), and maybe advertisers won’t flee forever. That seems more likely to me than Twitter imploding.
> Maybe Twitter really didn’t need 7500 people, and maybe having more voices speak is a good thing (there is always block button), and maybe advertisers won’t flee forever. That seems more likely to me than Twitter imploding.
Exactly. 7,500 is far too much to run a site like Twitter which at the time, it was already running itself to the ground. But it seems just like the so-called mass advertiser migration from Facebook, that never happened will be no different with Twitter despite the unusual levels of vacuous claims of Twitter's immediate 'imploding', which that has been greatly exaggerated by very emotionally charged people.
Twitter was already dead. Twitter 2.0 on the other hand seems more alive than ever, and I'm laughing at both the Twitter chaos and those pretending to leave Twitter whilst keeping their accounts.
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#59Musk's actions since joining Twitter board have been so erratic it's hard to believe a single word in this announcement:
* first joined the board then quit immediately
* made a purchase offer then almost immediately tried to withdraw it
* fired people then tried to rehire some of them
* claimed 20% of Twitter users are bots then let users decide to unban Trump
* announced absolute free speech then got angry when advertisers used their free speech to tell him they don't like how he runs the company
* allowed everyone to get verified checkmark then pulled it
* supported unlimited free speech then started banning people saying parody needs to be marked explicitly, then banned parody accounts anyway
And now they claim the moderation teams are well resourced and able to do their job just as before. How can anyone believe it?
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#60Concerning to say the least: https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-mater...