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Kraken lays off 30% of staff

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Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto simply followed the overall market effects. People cashed out with the economic downturn on the profits they made, just as they did the stock market.

> Crypto simply followed the overall market effects Crypto is performing far worse than even the riskiest decile of the stock market. Which should surprise nobody.

This is not true. The riskiest stocks are down thousands of %.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#52
I'm so glad I turned down the job offer at Kraken. The reason I turned it down was because I felt that crypto was a bubble waiting to pop (back in March, but that's been my "wrong" opinion for the last 5 years or more.) The tech stack was nice, the pay was excellent, the product I would have been working on is comparable to Bloomberg Terminal, so it was pretty cool too. But I just thought the job might go away in the near future.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#53
post #46

> Since the start of this year, macroeconomic and geopolitical factors have weighed on financial markets. This is an incredible couching of the last 9 months of cryptocurrency market behavior. Does anybody actually operate on their belief that "geopolitical factors," rather than astonishing amounts of fraud , are responsible for the current downturn?

We learned about the fraud because of macroeconomic factors! inflation -> rising interest rates -> crypto less attractive [0] -> people ask for their deposits back -> company can't meet obligations -> company folds -> scrutiny -> fraud revealed Is my basic model of things. [0] from https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/11/th... : "When interest rates are very low a dollar in the far future is worth a…

I completely agree! My point was that it's very funny to blame the macro (and even funnier to blame geopolitics), when it's clearly just serving a revelatory purpose.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#54

Strange, LinkedIn shows staff of 500+ https://www.linkedin.com/company/krakenfx/ and the press-release mentioned "1,100 people, or 30 percent". Number do not add up.

Kraken doesn't want their employees to mark that they work there on social media to reduce the risk of social hacking.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Crypto simply followed the overall market effects Crypto is performing far worse than even the riskiest decile of the stock market. Which should surprise nobody.

This is not true. The riskiest stocks are down thousands of %.

> riskiest stocks are down thousands of %

This isn’t how numbers work.

Also, practically every asset class has a member that went to zero. The question is what fraction, and how did the others do. If you bought a basket of super-risky assets, over the past years, they went up like crypto and down less.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness the astonishing amounts of fraud have been there all along.

As is true in traditional finance as well. If you want to escape fraud altogether you might as well not have any wealth. The entire 2008 financial crises was due to fraud...

People are still defrauded without wealth. See loan sharks, for example, or people arguing you should use debt to invest in the newest crypto hype. So even that escape hatch does not work.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Crypto simply followed the overall market effects Crypto is performing far worse than even the riskiest decile of the stock market. Which should surprise nobody.

This is not true. The riskiest stocks are down thousands of %.

> The riskiest stocks are down thousands of %.

Huh?

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#58
post #41

> We’re reducing our global workforce by approximately 1,100 people, or 30 percent, in order to adapt to current market conditions. Why does a crypto exchange need 4,000 employees?

If it were up to HN, I swear, every company would just have 30 employees or it's a "waste".

Seriously. Everyone here seems to think every business should be a permanent bootstrapped, profitable company. If you play the venture game, which Kraken is, you need to grow fast. Typically, though not always, that means hiring people to support that growth.

WhatsApp is the exception, not the rule.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#59
post #41

> We’re reducing our global workforce by approximately 1,100 people, or 30 percent, in order to adapt to current market conditions. Why does a crypto exchange need 4,000 employees?

If it were up to HN, I swear, every company would just have 30 employees or it's a "waste".

This is hacker news after all, lots of us are hackers that prefer non-VC boosted (nor "cryptocurrency boosted") businesses that are run a bit more lean. Although, it used to be called "Startup News" but lets just ignore that fact for a bit so we can scream at bloated companies for a bit longer.

Re: Kraken lays off 30% of staff

#60
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Crypto simply followed the overall market effects Crypto is performing far worse than even the riskiest decile of the stock market. Which should surprise nobody.

Have we forgotten the amount of profit people made from the prior years of insane price growth? Tell me which stock performed as well as Bitcoin.

> which stock performed as well as Bitcoin

If you want to go for a rodeo, there are litanies of similar success stories in penny stock and angel investing.

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