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Reason x why I'm rooting for Zack and his metaverse bet! I love the iPhone & Mac but I dislike apples approach to "privacy" feels hypocritical
Not sure if sarcasm, but just in case... My friend you need to open a window and see the rest of the world that exists outside that binary choice...
> I may be getting something wildly wrong here, but I am not sure I see the presence of this Apple ID proxy in Apple’s services logs to be a violation of either its own policies or users’ expectations for using internet services in general. I strongly disagree that the iOS App Store should be treated as an "internet service" rather than a part of the device. The iOS App Store only comes on iOS devices, it comes on al…
Finally, someone puts words on the irks I felt the last times this came up. Thank you. Apple is basically loopholing all the shitty ad-tech engagement surveillance bs that plagues the rest of the industry through the app store, pretending like it's any other app. Of course they can, but a lot of the hard-line privacy stuff goes down the drain with the hypocrisy. What bothers me is that Apple really doesn't have to mo…
The main issue here is that Apple has been collecting personal data for years through its own apps without informed consent, which is in breach of GDPR. You need to ask for express consent to collect personal data in the form of non-essential user analytics, having a privacy policy and a toggle in settings to opt out of data collection is not enough, and it does not matter if the data collection is done by a website, app or an operating system.
It was particularly frustrating to see people argue that it's just an older version of iOS, when the reality is that one needs to hack an iPhone to see how this data is being syphoned off, and that jailbreaks for new iOS versions can be prohibitively expensive to achieve. Despite that, researchers pointed out that they see similar encrypted packets being sent with a recent iOS version.
I think it's worrying that consumers can't inspect the traffic of a device they own, and this is also an area that should be regulated so that our rights are respected.
That's why I turned all this junk OFF on all my apple devices. Why would I help them better their software? Hire more test engineers.
>Why would I help them better their software? Because you too benefit from the software you use getting better.
I see a lot of very intelligent people here unable to agree upon a matter that seems, in essence, simple enough. That is in itself troubling and partly answers a question. If developers on Hacker News cannot fathom whether Apple deceptively transmitted PII, or whether zealous journalists are over-egging the pudding, then we have another problem. Obfuscation is a form of deception through complexity. It can be hard to…
I think this can be explained by simple denial; Apple's reality distortion field, or some variation on "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Maybe not salary, but a foundational world view, much like religion. I mean, people on HN will argue that it's wrong to block ads, a point of view that only makes sense to me through the lens of the above quo…
My personal view, which I presume is the same as many others, is that these things keep being a "if there is smoke, there's fire" situation. Yes, this could be abused, but is it?
Meanwhile, in full "what aboutism" mode, I know Google does crappy shit with my data, I know Meta is full blown flaming evil. I know Ad Tech has the entire world ablaze with privacy abuse.
Meanwhile, people keep pointing to smoke from Apple and screaming that I just can't see what they think they see ...
Reason x why I'm rooting for Zack and his metaverse bet! I love the iPhone & Mac but I dislike apples approach to "privacy" feels hypocritical
I see a lot of very intelligent people here unable to agree upon a matter that seems, in essence, simple enough. That is in itself troubling and partly answers a question. If developers on Hacker News cannot fathom whether Apple deceptively transmitted PII, or whether zealous journalists are over-egging the pudding, then we have another problem. Obfuscation is a form of deception through complexity. It can be hard to…
I think this can be explained by simple denial; Apple's reality distortion field, or some variation on "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Maybe not salary, but a foundational world view, much like religion. I mean, people on HN will argue that it's wrong to block ads, a point of view that only makes sense to me through the lens of the above quo…
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Devil's advocate: Contrary to explorer.exe, App Store is an internet service in the sense that it requires sending requests to backend for pretty much any user action. There is zero functionality without a data connection.
How does that justify logging user actions? Just because you can log customer requests does not mean it is morally right to do so.
> I may be getting something wildly wrong here, but I am not sure I see the presence of this Apple ID proxy in Apple’s services logs to be a violation of either its own policies or users’ expectations for using internet services in general. I strongly disagree that the iOS App Store should be treated as an "internet service" rather than a part of the device. The iOS App Store only comes on iOS devices, it comes on al…
Finally, someone puts words on the irks I felt the last times this came up. Thank you. Apple is basically loopholing all the shitty ad-tech engagement surveillance bs that plagues the rest of the industry through the app store, pretending like it's any other app. Of course they can, but a lot of the hard-line privacy stuff goes down the drain with the hypocrisy. What bothers me is that Apple really doesn't have to mo…
Yet another glaring indicator identifying our species as not mature enough to manage our own society. If this occurs everywhere, no matter what, then it is us, our constitution, our chemistry, our maturity as a species that is at fault.
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If it can be traced to a natural person, it is PII. IP addresses are PII, ids are PII. It is in the name "Personally Identifiable Information." If it can be used to personally identify you, it's PII. If you gave me this ID number, I could use it to locate your information in breached db dump, or if it is used in API requests, impersonate you.
> or if it is used in API requests, impersonate you You're suggesting it's an authorization token - which it obviously is not.
I doubt this vulnerability exists, but these IDs (and any IDs by any company) should be guarded just like any other PII for exactly this sort of reason.
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I think this can be explained by simple denial; Apple's reality distortion field, or some variation on "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Maybe not salary, but a foundational world view, much like religion. I mean, people on HN will argue that it's wrong to block ads, a point of view that only makes sense to me through the lens of the above quo…
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