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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by philosopher1234 »

nathanaldensr wrote: post #42
bern4444 wrote: post #36

Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…

The fact that so many people so willingly give in to it is why sociopaths rule us all.

We are born dependent and vulnerable. If our parents are cruel we contort ourselves to love them anyways, so that they will keep feeding us. Then we go into the world and find we are still contorted.

The world seems to be full of these people. It’s hard to see a way out.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by rektide »

kcplate wrote: post #31
sys_64738 wrote: post #17

Some people have families and a life outside of work. We sure as heck ain't staying until 1am for anybody.

I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…

What was the crisis this time? There was zero mission or purpose here. Bow down and kiss the liege's ring. Thats all that this was. There was not one iota of reason for this forced display of loyalty, nothing pressing that couldnt have been done like a reasonable part of business. The jerking people is the point.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by not_the_fda »

sys_64738 wrote: post #34
kcplate wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…

I've never done an "all nighter" in 30+ years and never will. I value my time and if a company is expecting such a commitment then they're taking liberties with understaffing projects.

I did all nighters early in my career only to have management go in a different direction when we were done.

It ain't worth it and shows lack of leadership. I now have cash on hand to walk out on all nighters and death marches.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by rdtwo »

wawayanda wrote: post #29
wskish wrote: post #25

I am amazed by how polarizing this seems to be. Some of my best memories are from previous startups with this exact 1am energy. This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done, and shared suffering cements lifelong bonds.

Twitter isn't a startup. The folks in this picture don't have the same risk/reward as their counterparts at a startup would.

Their risk reward is show up or get kicked out of their homes and country. Real shitty.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by csande17 »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #53

As opposed to: https://www.theblaze.com/news/twitter-day-in-life-video Having worked in both types of environments, I can tell you only the 1am types survive and become profitable.

Some of the criticisms of the video are a bit unfair.

> She pans the camera to three women in a meeting room. She also shows several bookshelves filled with books, but otherwise shows nothing about the meetings they held or the "projects" they may or may not have been able "to knock out."

I mean, of course someone's not going to record an internal company meeting and post it on TikTok!

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish »

tomlockwood wrote: post #2

Looking at that diagram, and thinking the person who needed it just bought the company for 44 billion dollars, is bewildering.

I see that whiteboard as a mechanism to help build a shared mental model for all assembled. Everyone there has seen some previous unknown revision of architectural diagrams, and has their own partial model of the system. Due to the urgency at hand, they all need to have a crisp shared model of the important parts, down to the naming of things.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by beebmam »

wskish wrote: post #25

I am amazed by how polarizing this seems to be. Some of my best memories are from previous startups with this exact 1am energy. This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done, and shared suffering cements lifelong bonds.

I'm kind of amazed there isn't an immediate union drive right now.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by public_defender »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #51
nathanaldensr wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that so many people so willingly give in to it is why sociopaths rule us all.

We are born dependent and vulnerable. If our parents are cruel we contort ourselves to love them anyways, so that they will keep feeding us. Then we go into the world and find we are still contorted. The world seems to be full of these people. It’s hard to see a way out.

Not sure why you're being downvoted.

"Just resist psychopaths" is an ableist, reductive paradigm. Of course many people can't just resist. People have families, care responsibilities, and many are indeed conditioned to accommodate.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by grepLeigh »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #51
nathanaldensr wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that so many people so willingly give in to it is why sociopaths rule us all.

We are born dependent and vulnerable. If our parents are cruel we contort ourselves to love them anyways, so that they will keep feeding us. Then we go into the world and find we are still contorted. The world seems to be full of these people. It’s hard to see a way out.

Therapy can help break this mindset and cycle. Highly recommended if you feel stuck, or like your past is shaping your future in a way you don't want. Therapy is like having a personal trainer for your mental fitness.

https://twitter.com/Theholisticpsyc/status/15941596755867934...

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