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Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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post #11

If we object to a foreign country killing their own citizens, we can invade the foreign country and overthrow the ruler to make them stop killing (or threaten to invade unless they stop the killing). If we don't want to do that, we could try to put sanctions on them. If we can't do that either, there's not much we can do.

> If we can't do that either, there's not much we can do

In case this is serious, the Saudis have a lot of stuff in America our courts could seize.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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post #5

The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.

More importantly one should either be an ally or be useful to the US too,

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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post #31
post #5

The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.

> Your only way out is to be the head of your state. Or a diplomat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

> On 20 October 2022 she pleaded guilty to causing the death of Harry Dunn by careless driving. Sentencing will take place at a later date.

Am I missing something?

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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post #44
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most controversial thing in recent times (here in Canada too) isn't even drilling, it's moving oil efficiently over pipelines vs via dirty trucks and busy rail lines. There's much more opportunity for political activism when pipes go over lots of small pieces of land vs drilling one big piece of land.

This is what activists fail to understand for ideological reason. Oil will flow, one way or another: be it truck, rail or pipeline. The only thing that would stop the flow is cessation in demand. Which means their efforts would be better used agitating for wind, solar and other renewables.

Activists understand that. What's unreasonable is not adjusting pipeline routes when they destroy livability of areas

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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post #14

Well, America’s superpower status rests on being the reserve currency for petroleum imports so, in reality, KSA has America in a vise. The US can’t do anything to antagonise KSA because the direct result will be KSA accepting currencies other than the dollar for petrol, which will lower the global demand for dollars, leading to devaluation of the USD leading to economic calamity. I’m sure MBS, Biden, Trump, Obama, Pu…

> America’s superpower status rests on being the reserve currency for petroleum imports

No, it doesn’t. America’s economy and thus voters like cheap oil. America’s massive consumer and industrial base underwrites its currency’s power.

Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing

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This is disturbing. Outside of this, I actually deleted the Twitter App from my phone a few weeks ago when I found out they still own a huge part of Twitter. https://twitter.com/alwaleed_talal/status/158597522656711065...

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