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This is starting to feel like... the XKCD meme about too many standards. Everyone in North America that isn't Tesla: CCS1 Telsa in North America: NACS Everyone including Tesla in Europe: CCS2 Everyone in Japan: CHAdeMO Everyone in China: GB/T
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Tesla’s connector has zero marketshare in Europe and doesn’t support 3-phase AC charging. I don’t think there is that much benefit in a global standard given that adapters exist.
Teslas (and their Superchargers) shipped there before ~2019 had the same plug, before they switched to CCS. I'm not sure how 3-phase fits in, but it didn't prevent being at least as useful as in the U.S.
The proprietary part was they did pin switching to enable the same connector to do DC Supercharging as well.
Now they have switched to CCS Type 2 in Europe which is the Type 2 connector plus additional pins for DC charging and the CCS communication protocols.
Hilarious to call their thing the "North American Charging Standard" when every other manufacturer in North America has already standardized on something else.
Try plugging a Nissan Leaf into a CCS charger.
The Leaf is the only model in the U.S. that uses, or has ever used, the CHAdeMO connection that the Leaf has. Good luck finding a CHAdeMO charger now, it was already hard 4 years ago and it is just getting worse. Most places that had one were Nissan dealerships, but those are almost always broken now. Nissan dealers just don't care about it. Even when they exist and are working, that has to be the most difficult connector I've ever seen for a consumer-grade product.
Their 40kW battery base model costs as much as a 60kW Chevy Bolt. Where I live, 40kW will get you only ~120 miles of range. That small of a battery also can't charge that fast.
The most damning thing of all though is that the Nissan Leaf is the only EV sold today that doesn't use active cooling on their battery pack. It was a horrible oversight on the Gen1 Leaf, but it is absurd for the Gen2 after most of those Gen1 batteries cooked themselves to death (and were eventually replaced after a class-action lawsuit).
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Tesla is well over half of the electric cars. There’s no reason for them to accommodate the absolute worst standard at their stations.
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Tesla’s connector has zero marketshare in Europe and doesn’t support 3-phase AC charging. I don’t think there is that much benefit in a global standard given that adapters exist.
Teslas (and their Superchargers) shipped there before ~2019 had the same plug, before they switched to CCS. I'm not sure how 3-phase fits in, but it didn't prevent being at least as useful as in the U.S.
Wow. Awesome! I hope Ford and other EV Manufacturers make retrofit kits though - and similar for the charging stations already deployed. Lugging an adapter for all non-Tesla EVs before the, what, 2024 model year would be irritating. Assuming, of course, they are on board and this doesn't turn into Betamax/VHS, Blu-ray/HD-DVD, or HDR10+/Dolby Vision again.
This won't turn into Betamax/VHS or Blu-ray/HD-DVD because CCS has already won-- every EV sold in the US except Tesla (and maybe still the Nissan Leaf; they may still be on CHAdeMO) has CCS Type 1. This is probably too little, too late for Tesla.
Though if most of the bulk/plug is on the charger side, than this is all a non-issue.
Hilarious to call their thing the "North American Charging Standard" when every other manufacturer in North America has already standardized on something else.
The vast majority of EVs in the United States use this now, and it's not just historical - Just to emphasis the most popular EV cars in the US today are:
Tesla Model Y 60,271 20% 191,451 50.7% 33.2% Tesla Model 3 55,030 67% 156,357 94.5% 27.1% Ford Mustang Mach-E 10,414 – 28,089 49% 4.9% Tesla Model S 9,171 150% 23,464 79.9% 4.1% Chevy Bolt EV/EUV 14,709 226% 22,012 -11.3% 3.8% Hyundai IONIQ 5 4,800 – 18,492 – 3.2% Tesla Model X 6,552 43% 19,542 16.4% 3.4%
Tesla said in May that it would be adding CCS adapters to its Supercharger stations, already used in Europe: https://electrek.co/2022/05/10/tesla-add-ccs-connectors-supe... Now they're trying to declare their own charger as a "standard", after launching a $250 adapter in September to use the actual standard plug? Also, obligatory Technology Connections video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOuz_laH9I
I think it's a good strategy given how people are standardizing on CCS1 in NA. They're embracing CCS1 to a large degree, offering adapters for plugging your car into a CCS charger and allowing CCS cars to charge at Superchargers. But the connector is definitely better, so they may as well open it up in the hopes that people adopt the nicer plug and then they won't have to change it after all. Basically no reason not…
I'm not convinced of that. Tesla's connector is thinner and lighter yes absolutely. But Tesla is also weaker and less reliable \ less fault tolerant than standard EV charger cables (See the dreaded EP307 / lock error, something that can't even happen with a normal EV CCS charger)
I definitely think it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option.