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Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#51
I agree. Two very different business responses between Musk and Zuck. I almost feel sorry for Zuck as we are witnessing meltdowns of two large companies in real-time. Musk just continues to dig his own grave…

I feel bad for the ppl losing their jobs but that is a very generous severance package.

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#52
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So, after Twitter and Meta layoffs there will be around 15,000 people looking for the job. In one moment. With other layoffs it can be counted over 20,000 people IMHO. Will this over flood the market and bring expectations and salaries down?

In the small central EU country where I live, that wouldn't even saturate the open programmer positions - just about 1/10 of it. I'd be very surprised if it saturated the US market in any measurable way.

If anything this just means these people will be working on more different products, and that means more opportunities for even more programmers in the future.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

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> I’ve decided to reduce the size of our team by about 13% and let more than 11,000 of our talented employees go _How_ does Meta have 85,000 employees? That's an _incredible_ size of an organisation.

Yeah, I was just thinking few days ago how absurdly large Twitter's workforce seemed to be.

People fixate on what looks like a simple frontend and don't see all the tech behind it, plus the even larger support structure behind it: sales, analytics, moderation, etc etc.

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#55

Severance summary: Severance. We will pay 16 weeks of base pay plus two additional weeks for every year of service, with no cap. PTO. We’ll pay for all remaining PTO time. RSU vesting. Everyone impacted will receive their November 15, 2022 vesting. Health insurance. We’ll cover the cost of healthcare for people and their families for six months. Career services. We’ll provide three months of career support with an ex…

I doubt that's the most important part. Maybe for yourself.

The overall tone and high-level business decisions are much more interesting.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#57

Honest question - what does 'take accountability' and 'take responsibility' actually look like for Zuckerberg here?

Honest question - what do you expect it to look like beside making the statement and giving employees a more than gracious severance package to back up the words?

When you actually take responsibklity and accountsbility in the real world and not the bs world of C-suite executives, it means there are consequences for you. Might mean he steps down from his position, it might mean he gets a his compensation package cut, it might mean something else. But it means more than empty words.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#58
post #32

So, after Twitter and Meta layoffs there will be around 15,000 people looking for the job. In one moment. With other layoffs it can be counted over 20,000 people IMHO. Will this over flood the market and bring expectations and salaries down?

Very different roles. Also, corporate America employs millions of people, so this is not a significant percent.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#59

Im really curious how severance in non-US jurisdictions works in these cases. Both stripe and Facebook are offering WAY more than required by UK law for example. Do they offer similar packages to any UK staff laid off? Or do they assume that with a better social safety net they can get away with just following their legal requirements?

> do they assume that with a better social safety net they can get away with just following their legal requirements?

If they are offering above and beyond severance for the US, why would they be looking to 'get away' with anything like that? They could 'get away' with offering the US workers the minimum possible package yet they didn't. Maybe they don't want to burn bridges, or maybe they want the good (or non-bad) PR, or maybe the management are decent humans, but they are doing it for some reason and there is no indication to think that the reason wouldn't also apply in other national jurisdictions.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#60

All social media companies hire too many folks and now cutting expenses to meet their target for shareholders. Yet, only Twitter seems to get lots of backslashes compared to other FANGS. Why? I wonder if this relates to Elon Musks' ongoing outbursts on Twitter regarding his political and other conservative views. I believe I answered my own questions. Ha!

I don't think you understand how many people it takes to run a large company.

Turns out Elon doesn't either lol. Also, he's not a conservative.

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