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TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

search and browsing history, like from Safari and not from whatever dodgy embedded browser tt has?

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#52

I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.

I've come to believe that quality of discourse declines as communities grow in size and scope regardless of medium.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#53

I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

Damn man, I was just thinking about how annoying it is that I can't find anything fun to do on my phone. I just check HackerNews and painstakingly slowly type comments in on here at 20 WPM. I can get a tiny glance at the world news through news.google, but that site gets worse every time I load it up. I tried paying for Apple News, but it was all low-quality clickbait. What were some of the things you had to wean you…

You could run emulators on your phone if you want better games.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#54

TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

And here's Twitter...

https://twitter.com/stevekrenzel/status/1589700721121058817

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#55

I chuckled at - "There is no time to think about what you just saw because as soon as the clip ends, you’re on to the next one. The spectator is rendered a consummate consumer," I still haven't installed/registered for tiktok, I have no more bandwidth for another social network. I'm still fighting IG and Twitter addiction, what happens when I add another one. Just throw your phones away haha.

Is TikTok a social network? Fundamentally, in order for TikTok to work you don't need to be connected to anyone. Doesn't it make it anti-social? Does it matter if the content is UGC or not for the app to be social?

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#56

I have to say that I've never used tiktok on the phone and even on the desktop it's quite engaging. But the only reason why it even exists is because vine was killed by twitter in probably the worst business decision this millennium. So it's neither new, nor unique, nor inevitable. It is just the first non-us social media site and Americans are deeply worried about suffering what they subjected the rest of the world…

So would it have been better if it's Vine instead of TikTok?

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Even if TikTok were suddenly wiped off every phone on the planet, a competitor would take its place. TikTok simply takes advantage of people's desire to be entertained and apathy over privacy issues.

I don't understand the point. Every social media's goal is to take advantage of people's desire to be entertained. Youtube, Instagram, etc. Yet TikTik has managed to come from behind and overtake all the other apps. People are so quick to dismiss its algorithm, yet no other app comes close to recreating the experience.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#59

I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

After realizing that HN can be a rather challenging place (highlighted in the shocking moderation of the Queen E death announcement thread), I actually took a substantial break from HN. And it made me quite a bit happier. I recommend you make your own HN with RSS. It is substantially better that way. You won't be at the mercy of one moderators personal belief system and your 'main page' will hopefully better reflect…

Dang’s explanation of the moderation of that thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32773299

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

#60

I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

Damn man, I was just thinking about how annoying it is that I can't find anything fun to do on my phone. I just check HackerNews and painstakingly slowly type comments in on here at 20 WPM. I can get a tiny glance at the world news through news.google, but that site gets worse every time I load it up. I tried paying for Apple News, but it was all low-quality clickbait. What were some of the things you had to wean you…

Most of the stories I read these days aren't technically books but web serials. It can be tricky sifting good stuff from meh, but royalroad's reviews are much better than Amazon's, and Topwebfiction is a pretty good ranking board (as long as the serial is still being updated. Although Worm's been finished for almost a decade now, and as of right now it's #10 on the weekly leaderboard)
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