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Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by Cyph0n »

dont__panic wrote: post #38
Cyph0n wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix does indeed have some “hidden” gems. But I’d say that HBO takes the cake for unique shows with consistent quality that are - most importantly - allowed to run to completion. My go-to example is The Leftovers. What kind of network would ever greenlight that kind of show, let alone have it run for three whole seasons to its natural conclusion?

Ironically, they just cancelled Westworld before the intended final season. Not exactly a "consistent quality" show, but HBO does cancel some stuff, too. But it is not nearly as bad as Netflix's track record of killing shows with cliffhanger second-season endings...

I might be in the minority, but I’m impressed that they let it run for so long. Season 1 was peak TV, and it just petered out after that.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by MBCook »

alistairSH wrote: post #23

Not surprising, Disney (plus ESPN and HULU) is bundled with several cell phone plans in the US. I subscribe because it’s “free”. And Netflix continues its long slide into irrelevance. I’ve was a subscriber for many years, but cut it last month. Too much low-quality programming and it continually recommends shows I’ve watched previously and refuses to allow Apple to index it’s catalog so it appears in alongside other…

> and refuses to allow Apple to index it’s catalog so it appears in alongside other providers inside Apple TV.

I hate this so much.

I understand the idea. “We want you to come to Netflix for all your needs”. Makes sense from their perspective.

But I’M the user. My Apple TV helps me keep track of everything I’m watching right now. New seasons of shows I watch pop-up so I know they are out. I don’t have to check 7 apps every few days to stay on top.

But Netflix won’t participate. You know what happened to me? I forgot about it! Instead of constantly reminding me it exists by seeing it in my Up Next section (like Hulu, HBO, Disney+, etc) it’s buried under a pile of other content I’m constantly reminded about.

Terrible user-hostile decisions. Just like hiding your queue of what you were watching last to promote The Floor Is Lava: Season 7: Back to School Adventures or whatever I wasn’t going to watch anyways.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by enumjorge »

rabuse wrote: post #28
legitster wrote: post #2

Disney has so much less content, and I really don't mind it. There's nothing I hate more than logging into Netflix after a month and everything I was vaguely interested in has now completely disappeared and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects. Also, shout out to Disney for actually making it easy to restart a show from the beginning. I don't understand how Netflix has dropped so much money into chi…

They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

They’re original stuff is often so incredibly generic and uninspiring. They might have changed how they display shows recently, but I swear there was a period of time not long ago when the main image for a show would only have a single person with a nondescript background. It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by philliphaydon »

rabuse wrote: post #28
legitster wrote: post #2

Disney has so much less content, and I really don't mind it. There's nothing I hate more than logging into Netflix after a month and everything I was vaguely interested in has now completely disappeared and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects. Also, shout out to Disney for actually making it easy to restart a show from the beginning. I don't understand how Netflix has dropped so much money into chi…

They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.

Obviously this is subjective because my viewing hours are higher on netflix than Disney. Disney doesn't have any dumbout content.

Andor was trash. Obi-Wan was trash. She-Hulk started out bad, got better, then killed itself in the last episode.

Most of the marvel stuff has been terrible compared to Netflix's Jessica Jones, Dare Devil, Luke Cage.

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Post by FredPret »

lumost wrote: post #24
PuppyTailWags wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised by this because Netflix has Heartstopper & Neil Gaiman's Sandman. They've also canceled a bunch of stuff that could come back really strong, Sense8 comes to mind.

I recall reading that Netflix intentionally capped the production of successful shows to avoid overpaying for actors. Actor contracts apparently have predetermined rates for 3-4 seasons, and then must be renegotiated. For a successful show the actors can have immense leverage (see Seinfeld). Netflix thought they we being smart by doing this, but they may have simply upped their content risk and simultaneously convinc…

If true it reminds me of business owners trying to limit how much their salespeople can make

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by ketzo »

hemloc_io wrote: post #11

Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

You can't launch a new service without exclusives. Exclusives are much less effective in music than they are in TV/movies.

1) There's so much more producer variety in music than in video, even at the top of the charts.

2) Music listening habits are very conducive to variety. In the time I watch a single Marvel movie, I could have listened to songs from 10+ different record labels.

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Post by XorNot »

Barrin92 wrote: post #18
legitster wrote: post #2

Disney has so much less content, and I really don't mind it. There's nothing I hate more than logging into Netflix after a month and everything I was vaguely interested in has now completely disappeared and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects. Also, shout out to Disney for actually making it easy to restart a show from the beginning. I don't understand how Netflix has dropped so much money into chi…

>and been replaced by even more half-assed looking projects the "half-assed" projects are the only thing that has me coming back. Netflix in contrast to a lot of the other services still has a decent amount in particular foreign and original IP. Most recent example, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, that would not be on Disney+. I just don't care about the 50th take on Star Wars. Given the numbers apparently I'm the only one on…

Netflix's animation successes are basically where Netflix gets the distribution rights and someone else does the entire thing (this is what Edgerunners did - and yeah it was great).

Near as I can tell, Netflix just plain...isn't good at content. Or I think more accurately, has been getting chronically shafted by trash-tier writers.

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