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Again, Scala is just another tool it's evolving and it's a very nice tool to know... Of course Java will always be around because it's easy to learn(I earn my money with it BTW) and it protects you from all kinds of stupid errors that newcomers could do in C , C++ or Javascript (memory management, Static Typed, etc...) but Scala provides a very flexible way to code a way that most Java devs are not used to, and there…
And those were not written to be used with Scala.
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You should probably have some kind of punctuation after the word "code", and start a new sentence after the word "Joy". But it's not worth downvoting you.
He practiced his Scala to get back at me, which is pretty cool =) Totally worth the downvotes my comment receives.
I like Scala, sad to see that it is not gaining the required momentum. There are many people complaining about Scala and we don't see many people who are using it successfully talk about its abilities and elegance, I would love to see the scala experts/Typesafe respond with something that demonstrates the usefulness/applicability of Scala to the masses, and may be Typesafe/Partners can offer an easy to follow video t…
Do you have a link? Maybe this unhelpful behavior can be figured out in person.
I always experienced the Scala community as a very friendly and helpful one, focused on getting stuff done.
Imho the talk about “bad behavior” outnumbers the actual occurrences of bad behavior by a few magnitudes.
My general feeling is that there is a business-model problem in the tech industry. The most important technolgies are underfunded. They are created by smart people in their free time, or by companies who do not have enough money. For example I've looked at Scala's Eclipse plugin: it was a horror. It is just question of money (hiring a bunch of good developers) to create IDE support which is not totally buggy and not…
Sounds a bit like you used an old version ...
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I disagree that the positive/negative is irrelevant. Much of the discussion around Scala has been around how complicated it is, and ensuing discussions about how the person who thinks it's confusing is not smart enough, and how Scala is the "right way" to do things, because it's elegant, etc. Having a lot of those sorts of comments I don't think will guarantee future success.
To be fair, most of the "not smart enough for Scala" comments come from people who don't like Scala and complains that the "average Java programmer" (whatever that means) won't get it ( which I find very insulting )
Given the amount of comments on Scala (positive or negative, that's irrelevant) I'm not so sure it will be a fringe language for long. It must be somehow relevant for so many people to spend so much time talking about it...
I disagree that the positive/negative is irrelevant. Much of the discussion around Scala has been around how complicated it is, and ensuing discussions about how the person who thinks it's confusing is not smart enough, and how Scala is the "right way" to do things, because it's elegant, etc. Having a lot of those sorts of comments I don't think will guarantee future success.
I had been thinking of Scala as though it was Java++ (in analogy to C vs C++): a language that adds a few features on top of Java for better abstractions, but regular Java programmers can basically program Java in it (and read it as though it was Java). However, it seems like truly idiomatic Scala code involves heavy use of advanced functional and type system concepts that cannot simply be glossed over.
Will Scala and/or Clojure end up as languages in the JVM used by a small number of senior developers to be more efficient on particular problems (like F# on the CLR) rather than the next big language used by everyone (like C++ superseding C for most problems)? And, is that an accurate portrayal of how F# is currently being used?
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Microsoft works that way with C#, VB and F#. And they even fund Haskell research. Judging by the quality of their output, it seems to be working very well.
True, those are also good examples, though with the non-Haskell examples it's a bit closer to the Eiffel model, where a company develops a high-quality proprietary compiler/environment to sell.