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Article title: > UK agrees to negotiate Title on HN: > UK agrees to hand over title should be changed. Did Guardian update it at their end?
You can tell " UK to hand over Chagos back to Mauritius" isn't a Guardian title -- no spelling mistakes.
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What laid the basis for Indo-Mauritians population (majority of extant population) largely emigrated to there subsequent to the abolition of slavery. Over simplification of what were undoubtable moral affronts doesn't help a rational view of history. Franco-Mauritians still indeed exist in small but wealthy numbers. > Making a claim that all Europeans have a better claim to Mauritius than the people and the descendan…
> majority of extant population Indo - 66% Afro - 28% https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Mauritius This is common breakdown of places that were slave colonies that needed labour after the end of slavery during Empire (e.g. Guyana, Surinam).
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Hence "I accept there's probably some discussion about how recent immigrants count" The big question is when do people become native. You can't go back 200 years for obvious reasons, if you're born in America you're and American, just because your grandfather was born in Belfast it doesn't make you Irish. If you moved to Belfast when you were 10 and have lived there for 30 years though, then you clearly are. Northern…
The argument amounts to might makes right. You're stronger than your neighbor? Just forcibly resettle some of your citizens there and give them an interest in your success. The principle of self determination worked very nicely when there were pre-existing contested territories as a way to extinguish claims. But it must not be allowed to create competing claims or else it will do vastly more harm than it has so far e…
OK, so America wants to take over say Panama. Why would Panama allow millions of Americans to live there?
> This is why Scotland is seeking independence through internal negotiation.
Scotland isn't seeking independence. A large number of people in Scotland are. They have that right, so do people in Catalonia, California and Cornwall. In the case of California and Cornwall I'm fairly certain the number wanting independence is a tiny minority, but if they want independence they have full rights, just like the people of Virginia and co had a right to independence from the Britain back in the 18th century.
The alternative view is that the people of Virginia and co did not have that right, and that may be something you believe, but it's not something I believe