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New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

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Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#53

Am I the only one who thinks this video is silly? ... you need to roll your sleeves, work hard, and don't give up. It's not the city that makes startups, it's you.

In pg's words:

"The best one can say is: if you're in a startup hub, unexpected good things will probably happen to you, especially if you deserve them.

[...]

I'm not saying it's impossible to succeed in a city with few other startups, just harder. If you're sufficiently good at generating your own morale, you can survive without external encouragement."

Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#55

As a New Yorker looking longingly westward, I have a question. Is the Valley the only place it makes sense to be, or is it feasible to live in the East Bay? I know the real answer is that it doesn't matter where you are if you're the right person working on the right project. That said, I want to be somewhere that the social environment is a positive one for someone living off his savings while trying to build a prod…

Avoid Oakland. It has all the negatives of cities, and none of the positives. The exception is if you live in a non BART accessible place like the Oakland Hills, but then you just have none of the benefits of a city, and few of the positives.

Berkeley is ok in some areas, but basically I'd choose between SF and Palo Alto/Mountain View if you want to do startups. SF if you want something closer to NYC, and PA/MV if you want something more suburban/small town and different.

Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#56
The NYC v. SF/SV debate might be a headline grabber, but frankly there's no data supporting the fact that NYC is catching up tp the west coast. A more interesting discussion can be found when comparing NY to Mass when it comes to tech:

http://www.cbinsights.com/blog/venture-capital/new-york-vent...

We haven't published the updated figures through Q3, but the trend continues: NY is consistently outpacing Mass in venture tech investment and has been dating back to 2010. We don't publish a similar comaprison of NYC vs. SF/SV for obvious reasons: it's not very interesting. But NYC has made recognizable strides in building a tech ecosystem over the past couple years nonetheless.

Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#57
post #23

It's not clear whether by San Francisco this article is referring to Silicon Valley, but assuming that's the case - NYC has nowhere near the tech ecosystem that the Valley has in place. In the Valley you have the full gamut of software and hardware companies and everything in between. In NYC, you have a mix of pure software startups that have had some success, combined with the typical industries which have deployed…

That's only the case if you NYC intends to follow in Silicon Valley's exact footsteps. IMO, it would be stupid to.

As you say, NYC's tech ecosystem isn't as big. But its finance ecosystem is bigger. Also media, and fashion. I'm pretty confident that NYC can map out it's own path, playing to the city's strengths. I don't think it needs to have the same tech ecosystem that SV has.

Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#58
We could spend a lot of time and energy trying to figure out what city is the "coolest" for startups and produces the most innovative new social photo sharing app.

Or we could simply spend all that time and energy on building our businesses from wherever we are.

I'm doing the latter (from Chicago).

Re: New York vs San Francisco in fight for tech start-ups

#59
post #38

As a New Yorker looking longingly westward, I have a question. Is the Valley the only place it makes sense to be, or is it feasible to live in the East Bay? I know the real answer is that it doesn't matter where you are if you're the right person working on the right project. That said, I want to be somewhere that the social environment is a positive one for someone living off his savings while trying to build a prod…

Housing in Oakland is probably the cheapest you can get, at least within the proper bay area. If you are trying to "leave the city life, while not leaving the city life", unless you are aiming for the Berkeley or Oakland hills, you will still find yourself in fairly urbanized environs. If you don't mind the fog, think about SF's sunset district. It's cheap(er) and a little out of the way, but still within earshot of…

The thing about Sunset (at least Outer Sunset) is that it's still a 45 minute muni ride to downtown. Yeah, there's a lot of "city stuff" (the park is right there), but man if you're going to spend 45 minutes on public transit, live in walnut creek and take bart or something.
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