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ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#51

Purchased ebooks are like ebooks except you can only read them in Adobe's shitty app, you can't share them with your kids, and you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow. I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase!

> I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase! Without a DRM mechanism it can be easily shared on warez sites. They really don't want books easily disseminated DRM free on warez sites. Alongside this they can track what pages you read and even know how 'fast' you are at reading. Welcome to 1984.

https://gizmodo.com/amazon-secretly-removes-1984-from-the-ki...

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#52
post #25

The U.S. Postal Inspection Service supports and protects the U.S. Postal Service and its customers by enforcing the laws that defend the nation’s mail system from illegal or dangerous use. What do they have to do with ebooks???

"Something something PATRIOT Act. Looks like we've got another 'domestic terrorist' here..."

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/

So they need a ".ru" domain, or some us-unfriendly country then?

that might work, yes. I wouldn't expect it to last forever though because the US gov doesn't like jurisdictions that evade their power. Russians could seize it if they felt like it too. I have some experience with that.

Ideally you would exploit bad diplomatic relations between nations to keep things running. Mutually non cooperative jurisdictions can actually be good for the internet. I do think the intention of the US gov is to completely control the internet though, copyright and DRM violations being a major motivation. As much as they claim they are about 'cooperation and collaboration' or some other nonsense, it's really about hard power.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#54
post #22

As a lawyer, I can't recommend it, but I absolutely cannot discern any moral difference whatsoever between reading a library book for free and purchasing it later if I like it, and doing the same first thing by downloading the ebook from somewhere "unapproved." It's all very silly.

If the majority of customers for a given book are libraries and whatnot then it's no longer viable to make such a work. Mind you, I still think the whole thing is broken at its core and that we'd be better off if it were abolished, but would that sort of major change in incentives qualify as a moral difference?

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#55
post #22

As a lawyer, I can't recommend it, but I absolutely cannot discern any moral difference whatsoever between reading a library book for free and purchasing it later if I like it, and doing the same first thing by downloading the ebook from somewhere "unapproved." It's all very silly.

If a book (even an ebook) is in the library, it's already bought and paid for so the author gets whatever compensation they get as if it is a normal sale. I don't think arguing morals makes sense because of how subjective one's morals are, but, by using libraries, you are supporting the arts, whether you liked the book or not, and this is not a silly distinction.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#56

bookszlibb74ugqojhzhg2a63w5i2atv5bqarulgczawnbmsb6s6qead.onion still up on TOR. fuck them i aint paying for my textbooks. never had a book bill higher than $50 and not about to start now.

Am I the only one who believes the high textbook pricing are reasonable given the small consumer base?

Yes.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#57
post #55
post #22

As a lawyer, I can't recommend it, but I absolutely cannot discern any moral difference whatsoever between reading a library book for free and purchasing it later if I like it, and doing the same first thing by downloading the ebook from somewhere "unapproved." It's all very silly.

If a book (even an ebook) is in the library, it's already bought and paid for so the author gets whatever compensation they get as if it is a normal sale. I don't think arguing morals makes sense because of how subjective one's morals are, but, by using libraries, you are supporting the arts, whether you liked the book or not, and this is not a silly distinction.

If my local library already owns the book and it is not checked out, what is the difference between driving there to check it out and downloading it illegally online? The impact to the author is the same: absolutely nothing.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#59

Purchased ebooks are like ebooks except you can only read them in Adobe's shitty app, you can't share them with your kids, and you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow. I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase!

> I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase! Without a DRM mechanism it can be easily shared on warez sites. They really don't want books easily disseminated DRM free on warez sites. Alongside this they can track what pages you read and even know how 'fast' you are at reading. Welcome to 1984.

Any coherent text that can actually be read somehow with human eyes can trivially be de-DRM'd. If nothing else with a physical book scanning machine that swipes instead of turning a page.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#60

At least there is still tor. loginzlib2vrak5zzpcocc3ouizykn6k5qecgj2tzlnab5wcbqhembyd .onion Update: The z-library wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library ) lists the following zlib onion domain which doesn't require a login: zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52fad.onion

i tried and it does not requieres to login to browse the site, but to download a book is says that the limit of downloads has been reached (apparently a tor connection appears as a localhost one 127.0.0.1) and then asks to login.
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