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Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's funny, because in accordance with my policy I delete snap immediately after install.
My new policy is to just install Debian instead.
Snap is the reason I moved from Ubuntu to Fedora years ago. I couldn't have known how happy I would be with this decision :)
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#53To any app dev. If your app is only available via snap I will not be using it. Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap.
> Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap. Yes, this deserves shaming. > https://certbot.eff.org/instructions > The Certbot snap supports the x86_64, ARMv7, and ARMv8 architectures. While we strongly recommend that most users install Certbot through the snap, you can find alternate installation instructions here. Shame on you, certbot and EFF. Of all people, I expected better fr…
Debian has it too: https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot
And even Ubuntu: https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot
Though I guess there's a risk that eventually the Ubuntu package becomes a facade package like Chrome is, that has no content but uses a postinstall script to grab you the snap instead.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#54I wonder why Signal opposes flatpak so much. As far as I remember, they insist on sticking to .deb package only [1]. Seems like switching to Flatpak would benefit a lot of people now because of Steam Deck-induced Flatpak popularity [2]. 1. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Desktop/issues/1639 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/tiidh8/comment/i1em...
There is a Signal flatpak ( https://github.com/flathub/org.signal.Signal ), I'm unsure if the Signal devs are involved in it or not.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one knows [1], except Snap. Not even the maintainers :( Snaps response [2] seems to be: > I understand the sudden move of signal-desktop can be disruptive for people wishing to install this package. Just to confirm the reason for the absence - Snap Store administrators had to remove the snap in accordance with our policies. We hope to have it back shortly. 1. https://github.com/snapcrafters/signal-desktop/issues/7…
That's funny, because in accordance with my policy I delete snap immediately after install.
It also has the benefit of being able to get rid of that hideous ~/snap folder. With what were they thinking making that choice.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#56After reading the thread, I still have no idea why it got removed, so: why did it get removed? What part(s) of the snap policies did they violate, and how is it possible that even something doesn't charge $100 a year before you can even publish a snap doesn't even notify the maintainers that their app got removed? Just because you run an app store doesn't mean Apple and Google's opaque refusal system is the part you…
No one knows [1], except Snap. Not even the maintainers :( Snaps response [2] seems to be: > I understand the sudden move of signal-desktop can be disruptive for people wishing to install this package. Just to confirm the reason for the absence - Snap Store administrators had to remove the snap in accordance with our policies. We hope to have it back shortly. 1. https://github.com/snapcrafters/signal-desktop/issues/7…
Maybe they're under a gag order? Or there's a critical vulnerability they don't want to disclose yet?
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#57I'm being slightly offtopic here but I really dislike how slow Firefox is to launch since it became a snap package as a default on Ubuntu 22.04. I know I can uninstall the Firefox snap and install it through APT, but I imagine more and more packages will become snaps by default on Ubuntu. And finding out now that it's possible that snaps are part of a walled garden, just like app/play stores are is really bumming me…
For a typical Ubuntu desktop user this is such a PITA. A small app like Spotify client takes around 15 seconds to start up on my beefed up workstation. Canonical pretends this issue doesn't exist but I've had enough and I'm switching to Fedora.
They are openly hostile towards their own users.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#58Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
Discussed recently in another story, but many including me like Pop!_OS as a better version of Ubuntu.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#59Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
If you basically-Ubuntu-but-more-free then yes, Debian.
If you want a paradigm shift, try NixOS + home-manager.
Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap
#60To any app dev. If your app is only available via snap I will not be using it. Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap.
I understand the appeal as the developer, Linux package management is heavily fragmented. The snap is build once deploy everywhere. But there are a lot of drawbacks for the user. I don't want my applications to be huge bundles that use twice the ram and have an alternate update system. As a primarily Debian user, I would much rather have a deb repo. If they insist on bundling it like this, flatpak would be a better choice than snap.