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OpenStreetMap is the second most-important resource on the Internet, after the Wikipedia.
For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…
Their revenue from 2009-2022 tells the story: https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/revenue/
For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…
Their revenue from 2009-2022 tells the story: https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/revenue/
The last time i checked in about 2007 the price of a yearly UK update was eye watering. I just accepted that if i take the new by-pass Tom will scream thinking im in a lake.
For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…
I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…
Since Covid, I don't go anywhere consistently enough for it to know what to suggest :)
For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…
I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…
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My father in law had a TomTom and maps were always years behind reality (and he paid for several updates as they promised the changes would be in there, but no), so updating or not does not matter.
Good point. I've certainly run into situation where my TomTom got confused with reality, but on the other hand, just a couple of weeks ago the built-in GPS in my wife's car was totally unaware of some high-way in France and thought we were going cross-country through some fields for quite a long time :)
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Every company starts as a "net taker" until they find their contribution niche, so I'm not concerned. Besides, the positive effect of more eyes seeing OSM and more companies caring about its quality cannot be understated. (I can point to dozens of examples of this.)
> more eyes seeing OSM and more companies caring about its quality cannot be understated. (I can point to dozens of examples of this.) I'd love to hear more about that
For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…
> a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing There's still the use case of driving in remote areas with less-than-ideal or expensive connectivity (though probably those spots don't really require sophisticated nav), and also that you might not want to tell ad monopolies your location data.
But I've seen another uses of dedicated GPS appliances: bikers. They use rugged ones, they don't break so easily as phones.
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>since I don't have a smart phone holup. what do you mean? like you don't own one or don't use one?
I've never owned one. As you can tell from the opening statement of my original comment above, I'm old. Surprisingly, I seem to be able to go through life just fine, so don't worry.
How do you find your way out of the house in the morning? And what do you do when you're stuck somewhere with other people who you don't know?
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I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…
Tom Tom used to charge for map updates, which became a no-go for many. The same thing thing with built-in ones. Toyota asked 60 euro for the map updates and unfortunately no android/ios auto.. i am going between google maps / apple maps. I find routes better in google maps but i love apple maps voice indications better. I still have also a free lifetime update tomtom but it very slow to add destination etc.
This is what led to their demise, no?