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Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by mattficke »

herodoturtle wrote: post #4

From the linked article: > The company has yet to release a formal announcement of the acquisition. The communications department has gone silent. Rumors have swirled about layoffs, with some notices going out quietly. Is it just me or is this headline totally misleading? No formal announcement yet folks.

It’s reporting on information the authors received from sources who would not speak on the record. It’s entirely possible that the four anonymous sources are the four people in the meeting (Musk et al) and they’re speaking on background because they haven’t made a formal announcement yet.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by duxup »

rr808 wrote: post #29

Seems to be a lot of work at twitter I doubt there will be many devs removed. However he tweeted that there are 10 people managing for every one dev. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586686935518498816 Also Layoffs before vesting denied. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586831721386766337 Bring back Vine? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586918804780630016

He tweets lots of things…

Not sure I would trust in tweets much. Twitter took on a lot of debt.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by m00x »

yboris wrote: post #17
swozey wrote: post #9

Evidently Musk had Tweeps work all weekend on the new Verified feature lest they get fired, and some were fired "for cause" anyway. https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1587029446061686784

How is it legal to demand people work on weekends? How is it legal to (even threaten) firing if a new assigned task that takes a long time is not done on time?

It's always been legal to ask tech workers to work unpaid OT. Only places like FAANG, and a few others, pay extra for on-call.

Usually your contracts doesn't specify time worked per week, only that you finish your work.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by cyborgx7 »

herodoturtle wrote: post #4

From the linked article: > The company has yet to release a formal announcement of the acquisition. The communications department has gone silent. Rumors have swirled about layoffs, with some notices going out quietly. Is it just me or is this headline totally misleading? No formal announcement yet folks.

>No formal announcement yet folks.

This is how you get a press that only uncritically regurgitates press releases.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by LastTrain »

basementcat wrote: post #31
outside1234 wrote: post #3

Did Twitter file a California WARN notice? If not, they need to do so and give 60 day notice to workers in California. So, don't accept anything that doesn't preserve your rights to your Tuesday equity grant. Details here: https://edd.ca.gov/en/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN Key Provision: "Layoff of 50 or more employees within a 30-day period regardless of % of workforce. ...." Penalties for Violation: "A po…

My understanding is that the WARN notice does not apply when employees are terminated for cause. This has the extra "benefit" of not having to pay out unemployment claims.

If Twitter fires 25% of the workforce "for cause" they will be facing massive lawsuits and they will lose those.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by eCa »

swader999 wrote: post #28
mywittyname wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering breaking the law is one of Musk's seemingly favorite hobbies, I wouldn't be so sure on a WARN notice. The punishments for non-compliance isn't very much.

He's following the law if he pays the penalty.

If you pay a fine for breaking the law means you still broke the law. If you don’t pay the fine, then you broke the law again.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by soared »

ehnto wrote: post #50
jdm2212 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless the sales people are bringing in more than that in sales.

Forgive my ignorance, what are they selling? Is it to bigger advertising clients? Or maybe Twitter has some commercial services I'm not aware of.

It’s advertising, that product still needs a large sales org

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by s1artibartfast »

yboris wrote: post #17
swozey wrote: post #9

Evidently Musk had Tweeps work all weekend on the new Verified feature lest they get fired, and some were fired "for cause" anyway. https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1587029446061686784

How is it legal to demand people work on weekends? How is it legal to (even threaten) firing if a new assigned task that takes a long time is not done on time?

I the US your manager can demand the moon be sitting on his desk by Monday morning, or you are fired.

I think this is a reality check and a power play by Musk to remind employees of the fact.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by PuppyTailWags »

yboris wrote: post #17
swozey wrote: post #9

Evidently Musk had Tweeps work all weekend on the new Verified feature lest they get fired, and some were fired "for cause" anyway. https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1587029446061686784

How is it legal to demand people work on weekends? How is it legal to (even threaten) firing if a new assigned task that takes a long time is not done on time?

There's no legal framework for weekends. They were originally created due to massive labor advocacy and strikes. I imagine since such advocacy has been undermined for decades it makes sense the victories the advocacy fought for are also being clawed back.
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