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Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by dihydro »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #25
whalesalad wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The M1 can run Asahi Linux, which I imagine is going to outperform this. https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-8cx-gen-3-intel-...

Exactly, this is priced very similarly to the Mac Mini with M1 (soon to be updated to use an M2) and can already run Linux fairly well.

Mac Mini has no option for 32GB of RAM, and with 512GB of SSD storage is $899. How is that similar in price to $599?

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by PaulWaldman »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #25
whalesalad wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The M1 can run Asahi Linux, which I imagine is going to outperform this. https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-8cx-gen-3-intel-...

Exactly, this is priced very similarly to the Mac Mini with M1 (soon to be updated to use an M2) and can already run Linux fairly well.

I wouldn't say the pricing is similar. This retails at $599 with 32GB of RAM. The Mac mini is $1,199 with 16GB of RAM.

edit: Was off on pricing of the Mac mini by $100.

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by smoldesu »

my123 wrote: post #19
xd1936 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The word _official_ is italicized[1], and the words "the product is _designed for_" means there may be hope that this is possible. 1. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/proj...

UEFI Secure Boot can be disabled or put in a custom configuration on all arm64 Windows devices, including Windows Dev Kit 2023.

And people said they wouldn't help. This is intended for us!

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by csnweb »

thom_ wrote: post #13

They should give them away. I’d never spend $600 on any kind of windows product. Maybe we can install linux on it? But you’d have to be smoking crack not to buy a mac mini m1. It’s the best computer I ever used hands down

It seems to be priced relatively cheap already with 32GB Ram and a 512GB SSD. A Mac mini with only 16GB of memory already costs nearly twice as much and I really wish there were a 32 gb mini at all. I like my Mac mini, but I hit the memory limit from time to time.

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by paxys »

nick88msn wrote: post #8

"Microsoft tells Windows Central that the Windows Dev Kit 2023 is exclusive to Windows 11, with no official support for running other operating systems such as Linux or even Windows 10 on ARM. The product is designed for developers looking to optimize their apps for ARM on top of Windows 11."

That doesn't really mean anything. No laptop released by Microsoft or most of its OEMs officially supports Linux. I'd wager this one will be running some ARM distro within 5 minutes of the first developer getting their hands on it.

Re: Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

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Post by lostmsu »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #6

I have mixed feelings about how successful this will be. The 32GB of RAM is really cool for the price - but 8cx Gen 3 is still no M1. It's still significantly slower than an 11th Gen laptop Core i5. Probably not super fun to develop on, even if serviceable - but considering nobody has cared about Windows on ARM to this point, why would you spend $599 to suddenly care about it, when WoA has far less than 1% of Windows…

Windows Store and Desktop Bridge work though. You are right about everything else.
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