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Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by rolph »

Scoundreller wrote: post #47
rolph wrote: post #21

Alaskan moose stand about 7 feet tall at the shoulder when mature, alot of that is just long legs, but a complete bull moose can easily be 3/4 ton. most collisions with cars end up clipping the legs out under it and the moose goes straight through the windshield at whatever speed you were moving. for those reasons and others large trucks are the rule, and cars are a risk. moose here are mostly crepuscular, active dur…

At least in Alaska you probably don’t salt the roads. In places that do, the road actually baits deer and moose. And sometimes go for the salt on your vehicle: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/worl...

just the gravel dust, attracts them, if there really salt deprived they will lick the road, you can really tell who uses salt in thier drivway or not as well, and you have to be carefull about it if a moose gets hit or becomes a behavioural problem, you can get fined for wildlife attractant, if they put 2n2 together.

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by cbsks »

Waterluvian wrote: post #36
nkrisc wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s been a while since high school physics, so I may be way off, but you only need to overcome the static friction of the object and surface. It’s the reason I can push a large piece of furniture across a floor even though I could never lift it myself.

I think you’re right and my intuition is way off. Now I’m curious if the load is ever going to be greater than a dead lift, assuming no edge cases like being blocked behind a boulder. Ie. Just general ground friction and some incline plane angle less than 90deg.

Yes! The coefficient of friction can be greater than 1. For example, clean and dry rubber has a static coefficient of friction of 1.16, meaning that it takes 1.16x the force to move an object than the object exerts on the ground.

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/friction-coefficients-d_7...

(I think I’m correct here, but this is just from a quick google search and my very fuzzy recollection of high school physics)

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by [deleted] »

Zak wrote: post #19
chewbacha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A full-grown bull moose can run up to 35 mph. So, unless you are traveling faster than that, I don’t think it makes a difference who hits who. ;)

The grandparent comment says "be bit by a moose", so that's a slightly different scenario. Of course if it's biting out of fear or aggression, it's also likely to knock you down and stomp on you, and you probably wouldn't rather have that. It's not rare for moose to kill people that way. As for collisions, the highway the author was driving on has a speed limit of 55 or 65 MPH in most areas, and people often treat sp…

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Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by refurb »

I knew a guy who hunted moose up in Canada.

To give you a sense of their size, if you field prep one (remove the innards, cut off the limbs), each quarter of the animal weighs over 200 lbs. You either hunt with 3 other people who can haul out a 200 lb quarter or you bring an ATV with a trailer.

They are massive animals.

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by HyperSane »

Waterluvian wrote: post #9

“The winch was rated to handle the moose’s weight—roughly 1,500 pounds” Permit me on this wonderful Saturday morning to be tangentially pedantic. I imagine the true “weight” of dragging a moose across the ground is a lot more than 1500lbs by probably many multiples?

The weight the winch has to pull is the weight of the moose multiplied by the coefficient of static friction between the moose and road. This will be less than one so the weight the winch has to handle is less than the weight of the moose.

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by 0x38B »

Scoundreller wrote: post #47
rolph wrote: post #21

Alaskan moose stand about 7 feet tall at the shoulder when mature, alot of that is just long legs, but a complete bull moose can easily be 3/4 ton. most collisions with cars end up clipping the legs out under it and the moose goes straight through the windshield at whatever speed you were moving. for those reasons and others large trucks are the rule, and cars are a risk. moose here are mostly crepuscular, active dur…

At least in Alaska you probably don’t salt the roads. In places that do, the road actually baits deer and moose. And sometimes go for the salt on your vehicle: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/worl...

Roads tend to be clear of snow, making for easier walking for moose in wintertime. I read that in deep-snow years, moose may get annoyed if you make them leave the road or trail.

I was skate skiing on Anchorage's Coastal Trail when I came upon a moose in the trail. I was going to go by him, but as I approached he turned and made a heavy step in my direction. I waited for him to leave.

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by 0x38B »

chrsig wrote: post #31

Growing up in rural New England, every now and then we'd have some moose wandering through. One jumped over my dads car, leaving a pretty significant dent. Moose walked away unphased. The thing to know about moose: they don't give a fuck. they're a goddamn moose, and they'll go where they please and be there for as long as they like. The fuck you gonna do about it? And when you're stopped in the middle of the road wa…

You've described moose attitudes perfectly. Was walking the other night and stopped to pull some birch bark off a dead tree. The bark made a loud ripping noise, and as it came off I heard something big and heavy stand up in the dark forest. I knew there was a moose around by the chewed off ends of shrubs I'd seen the day before, but I didn't know he was that close...

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by jcadam »

0x38B wrote: post #56
Scoundreller wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in Alaska you probably don’t salt the roads. In places that do, the road actually baits deer and moose. And sometimes go for the salt on your vehicle: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/worl...

Roads tend to be clear of snow, making for easier walking for moose in wintertime. I read that in deep-snow years, moose may get annoyed if you make them leave the road or trail. I was skate skiing on Anchorage's Coastal Trail when I came upon a moose in the trail. I was going to go by him, but as I approached he turned and made a heavy step in my direction. I waited for him to leave.

Had to bail when I was coming down a hill while classic/nordic skiing on a trail in KPB - moose standing right in the middle of the trail. Figured it was better to throw myself into the snow off the side of the trail rather than run straight into the side of an adult moose :).

Re: Hitting a Moose

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Post by jcadam »

rolph wrote: post #51
Scoundreller wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in Alaska you probably don’t salt the roads. In places that do, the road actually baits deer and moose. And sometimes go for the salt on your vehicle: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/23/worl...

just the gravel dust, attracts them, if there really salt deprived they will lick the road, you can really tell who uses salt in thier drivway or not as well, and you have to be carefull about it if a moose gets hit or becomes a behavioural problem, you can get fined for wildlife attractant, if they put 2n2 together.

There's a moose cow and her calf hanging around my property since the spring. They are not scared of my ferocious labrador.
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